Why is rugby a weak sport?

Question

I have heard so some much debation that rugby is waaytoupher than american football. Rugby is not toupher than football. "Bloody Monday" they use to call it, back in the days americans realized that rugby had weak rules so they notched it up alittle bit and nearly killed each other.So, as time went on they started to wearpads. like any warrior who got stabbed would next time wear an armor. & do not give me the time b.s. 3hrs of intense play and a30sec rest unlike waiting too long to get the ball passed back, its obvious that football is a toupher sport. & for you who think those linemen (&DL) are chubby fat lazy bastards...well you are totally wrong, those are like SUMOZ mixed muscles, where the average of them runs a4.8 on a 40yrd dash and can lift 300lbs 25x. or more. I mean this is America folks why would we still love football over weak rugby. While rugby bans rules like spearing and others while football puts pads on and hits HARDER, BETTER, &DIFFER WAYS. dont forget the LBRBDBWR.

More Exagerated answers and no truth or realism. I was born in tonga and raised in America, and I have a great long line uncles and grandfathers who playd rugby. But, I played both and I just want to prove to you who does not hardly have any football in your nation that Football is TOUGHER than RUGBY.

And if you want to see how football really is go here http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ik9mUKup8LI
These are only High school students adn they are at top shape.

Answer 1

I'd like to see how long YOU lasted on a rugby pitch.......
Try factoring in aerobic fitness for example. A lineman can run 4.8 for a 40yd dash....but can he do it 100's of times a game, without having to stop for a commercial break??? ;-))

Offensive teams, defensive teams, special teams.....c'mon, just put your best 11 men on the field & get on with it!!!

(PS the word is "tougher", not toupher)

QUOTE: "More exaggerated answers with no truth or realism"

Novus, I have a response to your additional comments:

"Never have an argument with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level then beat you with experience"

Or how about:

"Better to keep your mouth shut & let everyone think you're a fool, rather than open your mouth & prove it beyond all doubt"

Answer 2

Actually you are inccorect. The history is that the american ruby players almost killed each other playing rugby - that is why football was invented. Then they almost killed each other playing football thats when the pads came.

The point is, the ide was to make a softer game, but the attempt failed. The games are just different. I prefer rugby because each player has to posess a greater skill set. There is no changing between offence and defence, you stay on the field and play both ways. I've played both, I am American and I prefer rugby. Neither is tougher as everyone here wants to propose about once a week (can you tell this discussion gets tired and annoying) they are simply different.

It is just a matter of preference - STOP HATING - "HATERS"
(If for some reason you do not know what a hater is the people who make these stupid "football is better than rugby" or "rugby is better than american football" posts once a week are haters)

I've played both also. It's just different. The problem is that once a person becomes a accustomed to American culture (I was born here) they prefer sports where one person can be the star. Good rugby requires a team effort. NFL football requires a team but relies on a few stars. But imagine a defensive lineman having to kick and run the ball. Imagine if kickers had to tackle and be tackled. Why don't quarterbacks run the ball more? If they played rugby they would do all of that.

Have you ever played football on a team where you had to play both offence and defence - I did and it seemed impossible at times, - but that is always the case in rugby.

NFL rules have gotten softer and softer now. What happened to the days when you caould slam a quarterback - now you can't even touch him. I am gradually loosing interest in football because the game has gotten weaker over the past 15 years but I still like it (not to mention I am a Raiders fan and the sucked big time last year)

If a person were really all that tough they would play both at the same time. That would impress me. There are two guys on the team I play for that play college football and rugby, that is impressive.

Those are the people who not only really have skills, but have the right to tell me how tough they are.....

Answer 3

I have played both here in Canada. I can tell you that football is a collision sport where you run at top speed and try to kill the opposing player while wearing protective equipment, the same can be said for Rugby minus the gear, but the technique required for tackling in Rugby is much different. The conditioning is a bit different as well, I was in much better shape for Rugby than Football, being a defensive back I was not running for 40 minutes per half like I was as a wing in Rugby. I much preferred playing Rugby than Football.

Answer 4

I think I'll add to the debation haha
Is rugby waaytoupher than american football... first of all, who gives a ****? Rugby is a better sport, period. It's more fun to play, as you spend less time on the bench, are involved in more varied play, and it's more exciting to watch.
Having said that, American football isn't awful, kicks the snot out of golf and other useless human endeavours... it's just not as interesting as rugby. I reckon American football gets more hype though.

You said americans notched up the damage alittle bit? How?

- By hitting guys without the ball? Okay, but you can't hit the wide recievers, who are the guys that count most, and get the most hits.

- By allowing spearing and head high tackles? Those used to be in rugby for a long time too mate...

- By eliminating rucking? touph man

OK, hits might be harder in American football. I wouldn't know. Watching it, playing rugby with some ex-American football guys, yeah some guys are bigger, and there's a lot of gang bang tackles, the hits can come from anywhere.

And even if the hits are harder, you're so armoured in American football I reckon there's not a lot of difference...

And there are a lot more tackles in rugby and rugby league. Tackling knocks the **** out of you a lot more than being hit, especially when it's one on one, and 20 or 30 times in 90 minutes. How many hits would you get in a game of American football. 5 in 5 hours? Would you ever have to tackle Johan Lomu one to one charging at full pace? That's when rugby hurts...

Anyway whatever, they're both hard sports. The point is, which is more fun to watch and play?
To watch - rugby
To play - rugby, more variation, more thinking in your feet and less time warming the bench

Perhaps that's why rugby is global and growing, while American football is... isolated. Perhaps that that's why you're trying to argue about how tough it really is, under the arm pads, thigh pads, hip pads, jockstrap, shoulder pads, rib protectors, helmet.

I must admit though, it takes a real athlete to play rugby in cricket pads...

Answer 5

Rugby is a real man's game with none of that pansy padding American Football players wear. It's much more physical and the 15 players on each side play for 80 minutes plus injury time without changing everytime there's a turnover of ball. Though 5 players can be changed during each game, every substitution is permanent with the exception of a blood injury. It's a far more technical, skillful game too and each player has to be able to master several skills, be able to take hit after hit and run constantly for the duration of the game. Rugby doesn't rely on the equivilent of a quarter back or kicker to provide scores or scoring passes as every member of the team is involved from the start and each can score. And finally, there is no room in rugby for the fat man who fills a gap in defence like the famous 'Refrigerator' who played for the Bears some years back, if you are not fit and are not able to run for 80 minutes minimum, you won't make a rugby team anywhere!!!

Answer 6

why is there always some american **** on the rugby forum
try to convince every one that nfl is better than rugby?
do you have a inferiority coplex or what.
and if that poor excuse for football that you inbreed six fingered banjo playing twats invented was even remotly intresting there would be more countries that play the game (and dont say any thing about the euro nfl!!, sending a bunch of washed up nfl players to europe to play the game dose not mean poeple like the game there. )
so the fact that no other county play the game is a good indicator of how crap american football is
"3hrs of intense" play you said just gose to show how intense the play is, the game only goes for 4 15min quaters thats 60 mins but it can be
dragged out for 3 hours that mean thay get a total of 2 hours of breaks during the game and you have 2 teams that swap around 1 offence 1 defence that means 30 mins each team YEH real intense chief they must be super fit and tough to do that ...play a hole 30 mins
now
pissoff back to your own forum no one wants to hear it.

Answer 7

"Rugby is not toupher than football"
I think you mean "Rugby is not tougher than American Football"

Novus, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Anyone who really plays rugby wouldn't knock American Football, it's just the commercialisation that bores us so much. I tried to watch the Superbowl recently, but it was 5 hours long. I fell asleep after 6 or 7 advert breaks.
The swapping around of 3 different teams in one is daft, as Aussie said, why can't you pick your team and stick with it?

P.S. "don't forget the LBRBDBWR"
er... OK, I'll try not to forget that.

Answer 8

Ha Ha Ha....i totally agree with aussie546. Just try playing the game......you wouldn't last. Also to add onto aussie546 remarks try getting tackled continuously for 80 minutes instead of American Football where after just one tackle their is a break. Common be realistic.......football wears helmets, shoulder pads etc just to play where as in rugby the only safety you have is a mouth guard and that is not compulsory.

Answer 9

Let's see shall we

Rugby - lasts 80 minutes
Gridiron - game time 60 minutes, lasts for hours

Rugby - you keep on going
Gridiron - you keep on stopping

Rugby - 15 men, attack, defend, everything
Gridiron - you lose the ball, you change teams. You want to kick it? Change teams.

Rugby - no padding. You take the hits
Gridiron - lots and lots and lots and lots of padding. And helmets.

Hmmm...
I'd just love to see Americans trying to play hurling or shinty. They'd probably end up in full suits of armour.

Correction - they already wear full suits of armour for gridiron. Hurling and shinty would require some sort of portable nuclear bunker.

Answer 10

im an 8st 15 yr old and i get tackled all da time by big massive forwards its not weak sport its got better rulez than american football yo9u need more stamina and need to be able to ruck , lift, adn scrum quite well to play whilst american football you only need good hands