why do feminists expect equal rights AND chivalry??

Question

if you want equal rights then that means chivraly is dropped. which would mean you cant get out of situations because you say "but im a woman". no more holding the door open, you can hit women without being looked down on because you would just be sen as hitting an equal. men dont have to pay for the dinenrs. the list gos on and on.

if we all had equal rights. then you feminists will be expected to fight, and not get special treatment anymore

Answer 1

Some feminists HATE CHIVALRY. They believe that all people should be treated with EQUAL courtesy and respect, regardless of gender. No special treatment for men or women.

But, that is the minority.

The majority want equal rights in business, but they still want more social courtesies extended to them because of being female. I respect the honesty and courage of those that will at least admit it.

The reason for women being deferred to based on the "common courtesy" and "respect" arguments defy logic. Should not EVERYONE be accorded "common courtesy" and "respect", not just women? Good luck in winning that argument.

So, (many, not all) feminists do not want EQUALITY, rather they want women to receive BETTER treatment, based solely on their gender.

Answer 2

Lots of people are missing the point here. Women still DO get special rights, and some women demand them, even if others don't. Culturally, a double standard is set in many different areas, including the physical violence difference noted in the question. "Don't hit girls because you're stronger than them." It is deemed more acceptable, however, for a girl to hit a boy because for some reason or another it's not going to hurt or matter. (I guess males don't have feelings.) I'm personally a very weak male by admission, and when ANYBODY hits me it hurts at least a little bit. I cover it up, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that I feel pain. Most girls, on the other hand, would probably go ballistic if such a thing happened to them, not so much because it hurts, perhaps, but because they are dramatic and/or know how much they can milk a situation for all it's worth. For anybody here who cares:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sO75NJcGCqA

I can say with relative certainty that I don't know any men (or boys) that would have reacted that way to pieces of paper. She is given the benefit of the doubt in such a situation, with a call for the "assailant's" arrest; would a man be afforded the same care? The whole point is that chivalry (I am referring to conditional treatment of men and women as a result of custom and tradition, for all you dissidents out there) is still very much alive in our country and in the West as a whole.

In truth, feminists don't really expect equal rights AND chivalry; the hardcore ones adamantly oppose chivalry. It is the average (or at least the strikingly common) conceited woman who demands chivalry and merely seeks to enjoy the benefits of equal rights as well. Feminists just happen to support those women as well as themselves.

Answer 3

(*laughter*) Equal rights doesn't mean that common courtesy has to be tossed out. I hold the door for people, women or men, young or old, especially if they have things in their hands or the door is really heavy.

Let's say that it does have to go the way of the dinosaur (and apparently it has); I'll take that extra pay and open my friggin' doors, and pay my own dinner tab. Oh yeah, and the last guy who tried to hit me ended up with a broken thumb and in some considerable agony below the belt, once he came to.

Gee. I think I'm emotionally devastated that you won't hold a door or buy me dinner. I think I'll go home and invest that extra pay in my portfolio.

As to fighting, I assume you mean the military, women have been trying to get into combat positions for 30+ years. Because those positions mean more points which means better promotions.

And as to "special treatment", if you mean the type where we're paid less for the same job when we have the same credentials, then there is a dark place where the sun don't shine where you can put your "special treatment".

Thank you for reminding me why dating is not high on my list.

Answer 4

The fact that I deserve the same money for the same job, or the right to vote has very little to do with dating. If you ask me out, You pay, If I ask you out I pay. If you ever want to have an adult relationship with a women it will help it you are actually nice to her and that might include opening the door for her.
If you somehow think at 200lb man hitting a 110lb women is equal you need a reality check. I don't think hitting anyone, man or women, half your size it equal, it's cowardly.

Answer 5

FINE!!! Drop it!! I'm so over the "chivalry" questions, and how that "practice" is mutually exclusive of equal rights for women. I prefer my rights, any day, than to go back to a time when "chivalry" supposedly existed (although, truthfully, it never existed, not even in the 11th century, it was a cultural IDEAL, NOT reality, any true understanding of the history of that time demonstrates this). Am I supposed to be upset that men aren't going to open the door for me anymore...if I get to the door first, I open it for whoever is behind me, female friend, husband, or stranger. And I am perfectly fine with paying for my own dinner, always have been. And most feminists don't expect "chivalry" (ugh!) but we DO expect fair treatment, polite manners, and social courtesy...and we expect it from men AND women.

"Expected" to fight? who is going to expect me to fight, and for what? So now I have to kick someone's @$$ for equal rights? LOL! Please! We're talking about real life here, not the playground!

Answer 6

As a feminist I must disagree with you, to a point. Feminists do not want "special treatment" thats like saying homosexuals want "special rights" we just want the same rights as everyone. I offer to pay for dinner with boyfriends and movies and if they tell me its ok i accept it. I hold open doors for men and women and i expect the same respect for them. You shouldnt hit anyone, plain and simple. The deal with hitting a woman is that men are generally stronger and bigger and its completely unfair if the woman cannot defend herself. I wouldnt want a big gruff man beating up a lanky man either. Its not fair.

Answer 7

I expect equal rights, but not chivalry. I DO expect men to treat me with respect and politeness - not because I'm a woman, but because I'm a human being. I also treat other human beings with respect and politeness, whether they are male or female.

I never expect a man to pick up the tab just because he has a penis.

The first person through should always hold the door for the person behind them; likewise, the person with empty hands should always hold the door for someone who has their hands full.

Equal rights means you can hit women?!? Excuse me, but hitting another person (whether male OR female) is illegal. It's called assault. It's also the mark of a very immature individual. I don't expect to fight anyone; why should I? If you attack me, I'm pressing charges and throwing your *** in jail.

Answer 8

you're generalizing. first of all i think most women, not just feminists want equal rights. that's a fact. and why shouldnt we have equal rights? i don't think women should get special treatment, and i think having divisions in sports & the military is wrong. and not everyone is a hardcore feminist. some women like their equal rights but appreciate men who appreciate THEM and treat them as such. we're not all unisex robots. we're men and women who should be treated equally and fairly and appreciate each other's differences. there's nothing wrong with a gentleman holding open a door for a woman. it doesn't mean she can't do it, it's a matter of politeness. if you want to hit a woman, go right a head if she deserves it - but why dont we all try to not hit anyone or use violence when we're angry? women and men.

don't generalize all women as feminists. ALL women. all PEOPLE in the world deserve equal rights.

Answer 9

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Answer 10

Why is it a big deal to treat a woman as your equal AND hold the door open for them? I consider my wife to be my equal and I open the door for her all the time because it's a nice thing to do. And hitting someone, whether they are a man or a woman is just wrong either way.