Did we not learn anything from Nam?

Question

With this "non-binding" resolution... Political BS aside how could we possibly kneecap the troops More other than cutting funding? How is that supporting the troops?

Answer 1

If we had learned from Vietnam, the liberals wouldn't still be trying to pull the same crap, by telling our troops they are only in Iraq to die, and can't complete their mission. They took away their country-men's morale, and were a big cause in the loss of so many of our men's lives, and remember, they ALL supported Hanoi Jane!

Stop lying to yourselves, Libs. You are responsible for your actions towards our good men and women in the military. Their lives are more important than your political gain.

Answer 2

My guess we haven't learn a thing.

Democrates have no idea about history. This is the same game plane that caused South Vietnam to fall. We pull out didn't fund them.

I like to tell me one war that when we had troops on the ground that this kind of resolution or where Congress got into telling the president how to fight a war.

TIMES UP

It was the Revolutionary War when the Congress try to make generals and tell Washington how to run it but not give him the money.
That is why the framers saw what a disaster it was so that power was not given to congress.

Does anyone really think that Muslim terrorists don't see this as weakness.

Like after Blawkhawk Down was the inspiration for bin laden to hatch his plot he figure after a few deaths the Americans will run away and we can cont. with business.

Looks like he was right.

Answer 3

Supporting the troops depends on how you see this war.
In general No we learned nothing. We entered into yet another war of choice under false pretenses. I think supporting the troops means an infusion of sanity and some how ending this war.

For the Angel of Death: I doubt if he knows how Nixon directed Kissinger to order the CIA to foment a coup in 1974 that deposed Prince Siahnouk, installed a US friendly puppet government under Lon Nol that ended up destabilizing Cambodia, creating a political vaccum and civil war that paved the way for Pol Pot and the Khemer Rouge. This was all because Kissinger wanted to have access through Cambodia's borders for American troops to persue NVA guerillas -

And ironically, Mr Bush's war of choice has touched off a civil war in Iraq that has to potential to greatly destabilize that part of the Middle East.
No we learned NOTHING from Nam.

Answer 4

They blocked the debate and had a open vote (Non-binding resolution). Which means that What they vote won't go onto record but they can still gain authority over laws and action. So... with that said. They are trying to DE FUND the war without getting there hands dirty..while making it look like GWB's fault. So when we, the people, come and back lash at them. They can say that they didn't do it. It's a political scam that people are not aware of to make 1 person take all the heat for there actions. I bet I'll get a lot of thumbs down on this one cause not to many people realize this and will think I'm stupid. But that's there opinion.

Answer 5

Why does this false statement constantly get repeated? Nobody is talking about cutting funding, more accurately Murtha's proposal would force our government to properly train, equip and prepare the troops for combat before the went, not after they arrived. It also calls for the end of indefinite tours and forced time in country beyond their departure date. Our troops are overextended in Iraq and war-weary, they need to be relieved or brought home gradually and force Iraq to live or die. It's time to start letting the chips fall. Everyone knows this isn't the kind of war brute force wins and I think it just frustrates many people that our military are almost reduced to the point of being targets. Let's start facing facts and get out, we will never solve the problems of the middle-east with force, it is going to take diplomacy.

Answer 6

Yes we did learn from Viet Nam.

We learned that to win an insurgency, you have to take away their source of power, the people. Insurgents like to use the local populace by either giving them money or initimidating them.

We are seeing that most in Baghdad. To be specific, we are seeing that in Eastern Baghdad.

What the media isn't telling you is that of the entire country, that is the only place that is truly dangerous. In the last 5 months that I have been here, we have calmed our part of Baghdad, worked with two city councils, helped the people get their infrastructure going, and aided the people through Humanitarian Aid. In return, they have kicked out the bad guys on their own, secured their own neighborhoods and work willingly with the Coalition Forces to make their homes safer and better.

Yes. We have learned from Viet Nam and God Bless the Vets who fought that war to teach us how.

Answer 7

Yes and it's now declassified for all to read and get angry. The fact that us getting into it was a staged event. They say the Gulf of Tonkin was our ships being fired upon by the Vietnamese. When in fact they never hit our ships at all.

I've learned that staged events to get us into a war for control is completely and udderly wrong on so many levels. Lets not do the same for Iran please.

Answer 8

Well the liberals in Congress believe that's the way to fight wars,and I think they might have gotten a kick out of watch the N.Vietnamese and Pol Pot slaughter 3 million people in Nam after they forced our retreat then,they are hoping to repeat history after all what's a few million dead bodies if you can use it as propaganda to build political power?

AD

Answer 9

We could remove the troops from harms way in Iraq.

Answer 10

It is not, as a Nam vet I see some similarities, one is we won the war militarly as much as the politicians let us do. Second this war is unpopular and will be the downfall of the party in power because of it.