We all know that there’s dispute between Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin, but Sorting Hat also implied that in some points, the friendship between Helga Hufflepuff and Rowena Ravenclaw also failed. Any idea how and why here? What’s actually happened between Helga and Rowena? How and why did their friendship failed?
PS: It’s disappointing that Rowling has little interest to develop more the Tales of the Founders…. I wish we can learn more about them. For instance, how did the friendship of Godric-Salazar and Helga-Rowena started? What are their achievements so that they’ve become legendary among the Wizarding community? Was there any romance between them? Were they more than just friends (shipping between Godric-Rowena and Salazar-Helga for example)?
2007-02-18 02:44:50 · 9 answers · asked by Professor Franklin 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Mythology & Folklore
And never did they dream that they
Might some day be divided,
For were there such friends anywhere
As Slytherin and Gryffindor?
Unless it was the second pair
Of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw?
So how could it have gone so wrong?
How could such friendships fail?
2007-02-18 02:50:26 · update #1
PS: I have speculations about what happened between Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff. It’s theory of mirroring. The idea’s quite simple: what happens in Hogwarts now shows what’s truly happened in Founders Era. We know that students of Ravenclaw House are kinda divided between supporting Gryffindor or Slytherin. I believe that it hints that what’s happened to Rowena Ravenclaw. She’s unsure whether she should support Salazar’s idea of the Pureblood-only admittance, or Godric’s objection towards Salazar’s attitude. Helga threats Rowena that if she’s ever agreed Salazar’s idea, she’d forever forsake their friendship. Helga has openly declared her support toward Gryffindor, by accepting everyone’s willing to study in her house… although she seems to appreciate the Hard-Worker more. Rowena finally gives in and supports Godric, but her attitude has made Sal’s all alone now. Without anyone to back him up, Salazar’s decided to leave Hogwarts once and for all.
2007-02-18 04:18:51 · update #2
Watching that Salazar’s forsaken his friendship towards Godric, Rowena blames Helga for her earlier threat. Rowena did not leave Hogwarts, but her Friendship with Helga has strained/failed… without any doubt.
That’s my theory about what happened in the Founders Era. What do you all think about it?
2007-02-18 04:20:23 · update #3
I would also like to learn more about the founders of Hogwarts. I really hope that J.K. Rowling sheds a bit more light on them in "Deathly Hallows" or at least in the possible companion book of her already written, but unused work. I like your theory on their falling out. It seems quite likely that it could've played out that way based on what little that we do know about them.
I would guess that if any of the founders were romantically linked, it would be Slytherin-Ravenclaw and Gryffindor-Hufflepuff. Slytherins are ambitious and want to be the best, while Ravenclaws are goal oriented too, excelling academically. They seem to share the similar priorities and traits; with the focus being on each individual's performance or status. On the other hand, Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs seem to be less driven to prove themselves to be better than others and more interested in working to improve things for the benefit of all or at least for others as well as for themselves.
This information leads me to theorize that Salazar was attracted to Rowena, who shared his desire to be regarded as exemplary. He admired her sucess, while she approved of his ambition, which can fuel a desire to achieve (as in academic excellence). While she didn't agree with his stance on non-admittance to any other than Purebloods, it wasn't a big issue because there were enough students that satisfied each founders criteria for selection to their Houses. When the issue finally came to a head, Rowena refused to side with Salazar which he took as an unforgivable betrayal. She was hurt when she discovered that he had kept the Chamber of Secrets a secret from her. She chose her friendship with Helga and Godric over Salazar and their relationship was damaged beyond repair as a result. Perhaps Rowena quietly blamed Helga for the loss of Salazar, for forcing her to side with her and Godric. While it wouldn't be rational to blame her, emotions can overrule logic at times. And it wouldn't be the first friendship between females that would've been lost over a man.... Rowena may also have resented Godric-Helga's continued romance, while she was alone.
2007-02-18 05:24:59 · answer #1 · answered by Kami 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes you are right, but is not explained in the books why Helga and Rowena lost their friendship. At least they explained somewhat what happened between Gryffindor and Slytherin. What always gets me is how Gryffindor and Slytherin were actually very good friends ( it's hinted) My own question is how?
The description of Slytherin is pretty dark yet he was Gryffindor's friend
2007-02-18 03:32:19 · answer #2 · answered by Sakura ♥ 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
not too sure...but I think the base of the failing relationship must be based on the behaviour. Slytherin is mean even though he's clever, while gryffindor has a golden heart and brave.
Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw doesn't really score much in the story altogether...so I assume it's more to the women jealousy over each other.
2007-02-18 03:00:08 · answer #3 · answered by littlemunkay 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
... I can't answer your actual question here, since I hadn't even really thought much about the "Founders of Hogwarts" subplots, except in the second book, but I think that maybe J.K. Rowling will write entire books on the founders after Harry Potter is over, because she has said there will be no more Harry Potter books, but who's to say there won't be, say, "Salazer Slytherin and the..." Just a thought... unlikely outcome, but worth pondering.
2007-02-18 02:50:29 · answer #4 · answered by -- 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
unlikely but of course possible. i think Helga and Salazar would be an odd match but then again she is a softie and understanding. I'm thinking that perhaps the Founders have multiple names like Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore. Or perhaps its Godric Gregory Gryffindor and similar for the rest. interesting idea. not something i have considered. its not too important, but interesting...
2016-03-29 01:15:39 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well the reason i think they don't get along is the way they choose the students of there house. They all are looking for very specific qualities that they find to be the best quality a student can have. If they all like one kind of person that could be a reason they didn't get along. They all had different ideas about the school and sometimes it is either friends or colleagues.
2007-02-18 05:29:05 · answer #6 · answered by Kinka 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Maybe..after all, it's impossible that she will just END her career, I'm sure she will go into detail about the Founders. No one like J.K. Rowling can just back off from such an outstanding and profitable career.
2007-02-18 03:03:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
wow i never really thought about the founders of Hogwarts but maybe jk. rowlings will make a book after the last movies is shown maybe not
2007-02-18 02:56:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
i love harry potter... im distressed that sirius is dead... i doubt that helped your question... sorry.
2007-02-20 12:54:15 · answer #9 · answered by Wolfire 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋