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People who earn minimum wage will not benefit from this because businesses will be hurt by being FORCED to pay their employees more. To compensate for this imposed loss, they will raise prices, so the raise will do nothing.

I don't believe in paying lower class people more money that they don't deserve. If you're only being payed minimum wage, there's a reason for it. You have an easy job that takes no real skill like flipping burgers. Don't give these people more money.

If you want to really help lower class people, give the rich even bigger tax breaks.

Do you agree?

2007-02-16 15:50:34 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

22 answers

Looks good in the media, we helped the poor. But all they really did was eliminate more jobs for the young, unskilled workers.

2007-02-16 15:55:18 · answer #1 · answered by ULTRA150 5 · 3 2

What good is a job if your not making enough money to support yourself ? You also say that because of the minimum wage increase they will be forced to raise prices, so the raise will do nothing. Prices were being raised anyway ! THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE IN THE FIRST PLACE !
As far as your argument that low skilled jobs shouldn't be paying any more money, let me ask you who will do those jobs if we all develop "skills" ? If everyone got a college education, we would end up with a college educated burger flipper.
Giving the rich bigger tax breaks, will only make the situation worse. Trickle down economics doesn't create more jobs. Instead we have less tax money, which means we have less welfare to help poor people working minimum wage. So guess what happens ? The minimum wage has to increase yet again to make up for the lack of tax money !
You best let the Democrats run the economy. You Republicans are too incompetent.

2007-02-16 16:08:10 · answer #2 · answered by Count Acumen 5 · 2 1

See, democrats do not follow the thought all the way through. Democrats think "Gee, I wanna help the lower class, I think I will raise the minimum wage...that will help them" What they fail to do is realize that that operational labor cost has to be made up somewhere, so everytime you go to McDonalds, 7-11, Taco Bell, the grocery store etc., it will cost you a little more, including the people who just got a raise. Further, not only will things cost more, everything goes up when the minimum wage goes up. Rent, utilities etc. Look at the artificial inflation, that was not due to other economic pressures, caused by the 96-97 raise.

Finally, increasing the minimum wage, reduces profit margines, reduces labor demand (basic supply and demand, with artificial price raise changing equilibrium), discourages people from going for higher education, slows economic growth and causes additional, unnecessary unemployment...these are things either democrats have not thought about, or don't care about.

think of the bureaucratic mess they are making now with getting people qualified for foodstamps/welfare/medicaid etc.

Democrats are about feeling good with their economic principle, and to hell with free market economics. Principles, laws and theories be damned, as long as they FEEL good about it.

The argument that there are not enough people making minimum wage to adversly affect the economy - it is spurious at best...if there are not enough people making minimum wage, then it is a non issue.

The argument that businesses are screwing people by not paying a living wage...Choose a different job. Even day laborers on a commercial construction site make at the least 12 bucks an hour...if you don't want to do that, go to vo-tech, college or trade school. Don't tell me you/they can't afford it - I will be paying student loans for the next 15 years - above and beyond the grants and scholorships I got.

2007-02-16 16:15:43 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

the simple fact is... there aren't enough people that make minimum wage where a small increase would have any real effect, either in prices, or to the companies, or to inflation...

your argument is like you telling me not to throw a stone in the ocean, because it will flood france... a stone simply won't displace enough water to make any measureable impact on such a huge force...

just like raising minimum wage a small amount for a small number of people won't have a large impact on a trillion dollar ecnomony and billion dollar businesses...

then you go off on a rant about how they don't deserve it?

do you really think that business sets the price on what people deserve? do children working in vietnam only deserve 5 cents a day? Of course not, the market simply doesn't place enough of a value on the common worker to pay them enough to actually live and it never has.

did you ever stop and think "why is there no sucessful country that has a pure capitalistic system with no safe gaurds if the market regulates its self perfectly?"...

if it regulated its self perfectly, every government would use it and business laws would have never been created, because there would have been no need...

2007-02-16 16:13:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The minimum wage issue is barely going to affect anyone and all the politicians know that. What happened when the last one occurred? A tiny little bump and then businesses raise their prices to cover the lost revenue. Which in turn prompts more calls for a wage hike. Around we go in circles. Until finally the business, if large enough, outsources to people who do the work for less. Why do all business, government (taxes), medical and all the rest raise their prices? Costs of goods and services go up requiring price increases. Wages are part of that cost.

2007-02-16 16:23:59 · answer #5 · answered by JohnFromNC 7 · 0 1

Why is it that when the *business* owners may have to struggle in order to pay someone a fair working wage, that's seen as unfair, but when the *workers* have to struggle to live off of it, they're seen as not having earned it? How many minimum wage jobs have you held? The low-wage workers are usually doing work that most of the middle and upper class would never deign to do, and the disparity between their earnings and those of the CEO's and upper management is close to criminal.

BTW, your argument also disproves the "if we get rid of the immigrants, the employers will have to raise the wages so that legal citizens will take the job" argument I hear so often.

2007-02-16 16:10:03 · answer #6 · answered by Vaughn 6 · 1 1

considering Wendy's supplies scientific coverage to its workers, the minimum salary is $7.25 no longer $7.50 as you're saying it relatively is. If an corporation does not grant scientific coverage then the salary is $8.25 The state’s minimum salary of $7.25 consistent with hour will stay the comparable as that's been considering 2009, state hard work Commissioner Thoran Towler introduced right this moment. (April 1st, 2013) The minimum salary would be $8.25 an hour for workers no longer provided scientific coverage via their employers. (no longer $8.50 such as you're saying it relatively is) you come at right here and you do no longer even understand what the wages are to be complaining approximately it

2016-10-15 12:02:28 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I lack the command of the English language to disagree with you as strongly as I would like to.

You must have a group of neo-cons conspiring in a room somewhere like Russians trying to beat Bobby Fischer, attempting to tee off the blogbaba into writing something insulting, or trying to convince me to stop answering questions at this site due to the sheer stupidity of the questions follow up dialog.

Democrats want to raise the minimum wage because about 40 million Americans are barely able to feed themselves let alone house and feed a family you elitist moron.

2007-02-16 16:02:31 · answer #8 · answered by blogbaba 6 · 1 0

So you are in favor of slave labor so the rich can remain rich? You make a lot of sense! But then you are a neocon and believe everyone should help you get rich, but you owe those that helped nothing!

I hope your type of thinking is outdated! Without all those peons you would have nothing!

No more tax breaks for the rich. That is nothing more than stealing from the poor to give to the rich in hopes of what? That it will trickle down? David Stockman and Ronald Reagan proved that didn't work!

Why do you want to give the rich tax breaks hoping that some of the money you stole trickles back down to those you stole it from? Is that the way you people think?

2007-02-16 16:01:55 · answer #9 · answered by cantcu 7 · 1 1

Your argument is not against raising the minimum wage; it is against establishing a minimum wage. Your argument asumes that there is a finite, never changing wage for the most unskilled people. Your argument assumes the same wage 1000 years from now, regardless of changing economics. What you are saying is that the minimum wage that I earned in the 1970's of $1.65 is what people should be making today.

Your argument doesn't object to a minimum wage, per se, just an increase. When it was first introduced, it was probably about $0.25/hr., yet you're not advocating going backwards to that wage, just freezing it where it is. How do you reconcile that stance?

You obviously have no clue about finance, economics, or socio-economic trends. Remember the inflationary period of the Carter Administration? A home loan would cost you 20% or more. Reagan increased the minimum wage from $1.65 to $3.35 eventually. How'd we do in the Reagan years?

Americans are selfish, by nature. We want what we want and we'll get it by hook or crook. When a family earns $40,000/year (median income), they expect to be able to go on cruises, buy new SUVs on credit, live in $250,000 houses, watch big screen TVs, ride their 4-wheelers, go out on their boats, etc. Those are unreasonable expectations. A $40,000/yr family should be paying off a modest home, saving for their retirement, saving for their kids' college, driving a modest car, etc. They shouldn't have a $1,000 gas grill in their backyard, but they do. All of our luxurious, supposed prosperity is a house of cards built on low wages, both here and overseas.

The average family earns about $20/hr ($40,000 divided by 2080). the average fast food meal costs about $5. That's 15 minutes of work to supply one meal. We don't pay our workers too much, we pay too little for what we buy. Wages are a reflection of the true cost to produce items. When we start paying what things are really worth, we'll start paying workers what they are really worth.

We haven't had an increase in the minimum wage in more than ten years. The cost of living (inflation) increases by 2-4%/year. Minimum wage workers are earning 1980's dollars to buy 2000's products. Get your elitist head out of your azz. The best way to keep the poor in their place is to give them more than they need to survive, not less. Empty bellies make for violent revolutions.

2007-02-16 15:55:59 · answer #10 · answered by normobrian 6 · 6 0

i do not agree if they work hard for minimum wage its not because they dont deserve it. poor people have to live too.no sense in taking advantage of a person because they are lower class.dam you rich people try to always get over on the poor people just to have more then what the low class has. without the lower class you have to mop your own floor cook your own food and many other things iam not trying to be disrespectful but right is right and wrong is wrong.poor people is not just democrats if you have not notice.

2007-02-16 15:59:24 · answer #11 · answered by annjilena 4 · 1 1

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