Well, they can do ANYTHING and look better than the past 6 years, so they are pretty confident right now.
IF? If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his @$$. A lot is tied to an IF. So I think you might want to rethink that statement. I could say "What if we stay in Iraq, and the terrorists from Iraq all leave there due to the heat, and come here and strike anyways?" How is staying there any better? And how about "what if your house is struck by lightening, and you are killed?" The chances are the same. That pesky IF is there again.
And by the way, MR. IF, how can you state that something would have happened the same with different leaders? Different leaders means different reactions in similar situations. You sure are full of yourself, thinking that just because you can offer up hypetheticals, that makes you superior in thinking. I have a few IF's for you:
If Elvis wasn't on the toilet, would he have died?
If JFK would not have gone to Dallas, would he have been killed?
If Jimmy Hoffa would not have gone to the Red Fox, would he still be around?
If Al Capone would have paid his taxes, would he have stayed out of jail for the remainder of his life?
If the indians would have killed the first pilgrims as they came off the boats at Plymouth Rock, would there not be a United States?
(answer any way you like. I will accept your answers when you can PROVE them with 100 % certainty.)
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I also feel that them coming home may not be the best of resolutions, but my issue with this "war" is that it is no longer ours. We are merely policing a civil war between two religious sects. And we seem to care more about keeping the peace in Iraq than those we are supposedly fighting for. We are risking our national security AND the lives of the men and women that joined the armed services to serve this country for an ideal we care more about than the Iraqi people. THAT is wrong, and that is the reason I oppose this thing we are still in.
I think that GW and his buddies need to realize that we have lost. We are done in Iraq, and we need to start pulling our troops out and bringing them home, so we have the troops for future altercations that are inevidable. I don't think that anyone is errogant enough to feel there will never be another attack on our soil, and we should have some here to fight that fight WHEN it happens (not if - for we all know that assuming we are the tough kids and no one has the balls to try anything against us. That was our mistake the first time around, and look what happened there). I think we are more vulerable now with our strength elsewhere. And if you think the terrorists don't see that, then you are living in a bubble. I think they are merely waiting for us to drop our guard further. And they will be back, and it is going to make 9/11 look like a day at the beach. . .
THAT scares me the most.
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We have to stop meeting like this (ha ha). . .
Your points, while convincing and get down to it, don't convince me. It was wrong to go in there in the first place. GW was advised against that by most of his military advisors. Colin Powell was pushed out because of his opposition to the idea. And the man was a military lifer - if he couldn't be trusted for his military insight, then GW was very unjust and just plain stupid for going in the first place. And now, he is realizing just how grave his mistake was to begin with. He is trying to make it appear as if he knows what to do, but he doesn't. GW is keeping our troops in Iraq, along with wanting to add more, until he can figure out what to do next. This is something he doesn't know. Letting the military do what they are paid to do (from the Pentagon to the soldiers) would have eliminated all of this trouble. They are paid to war - the commanders train on tactics, senarios and know how to fight a war. But instead of letting them fight, GW decided to run this war, and everyone is seeing the results of allowing a politician to run a war. They try to please everyone instead of going in, kicking @$$, and then getting out and moving on. You would think that they would have learned from the last politically run war and its result (Vietnam), but alas, they have not.
Us leaving? Yes - we need to. Us remaining there is causing more damage than us leaving would do. We stirred the pot, and then tried to calm the tide, but could not. Does it seem more logical to allow our fine men and women to remain over there to be the targets of insurgents and terrorist attacks? I think it makes more sense to give the Iraqis a time line, and then STICK TO IT. We tell them - we will assist you for XX amount of time, and then we are going to be gone, and you will be left to figure it out. So it would be best to use us and our training assistance to the best of its capabilities, instead of using us as the entire policing force. And then make that plan, with the US stepping off more each month, and in stepping off, we send troops home, and shrink the amount of troops over there. This will force them to do something to cool the tempers.
We are doing more harm to the cause by remaining there and forcing our unwanted assistance on them. They make it perfectly clear everytime an attack happens, and all of the cheering against the capitalist pigs in their "celebrations". Just because we went in and got rid of the tyrant doesn't mean we are going to change the mindset of them. Time and time again we have seen it happen, and we never learn. We are like the kid desperate to be liked, and we continually come in only to be kicked and laughed at again, even after "saving the day".
We should get out - that will be the "lesser of the evils", if you will. We have overstayed our welcome, and now it is time to leave and let them do for themselves. If we don't we will be over there fighting for a very long time (I am talking decades) because they are not going to fight back out of fear. They don't have to do any fighting right now because we are there. One must remove the training wheels before you learn to ride the bike. . .
We have to leave.
2007-02-16 14:45:01
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answered by volleyballchick (cowards block) 7
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Your logic is illogical!
Those states that voted for Bush have an average lower IQ than he does, below the 100's!
Slight majority! If I remember right, your president LOST the popular vote in 2004. HE HAD NO MAJORITY AT ALL!
Please with the homeland crap! Iraq had nothing to do with terrorist or 9/11! No Iraqi has ever set off a device or flown a plane into a building!
Those who did, have had 4 more tears to get stronger, and Bush is their poster boy recruiter! They can hit here any time they want! There is no such thing as a war on terror! There is such a thing as finding out why people are pissed enough to attack us and do something about it!
One thing is for sure, You haven't done anything about it as far back as 1996 when Clinton asked the Republican Congress and people like Hatch and The Speaker of the House, watered down Clinton's anti-terrorism bill! Bush DID NOTHING until 9/11 and then he attacked a country that had nothing to do with it!
2007-02-16 16:13:41
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answered by cantcu 7
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Hey, why are we so afraid that it will all go wrong in Iraq? Once we pull all our troops out, and if the radicals and jihadists win, we just nuke off Iraq, plain and simple. We've bombed Iraq once - without moral conscience - and we can do it all over again. And the nukes will just get rid of them all... in one haste! So, where and what's the problem?
2007-02-16 15:18:34
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answered by United_Peace 5
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