"If we don't fight them over there we'll have to fight them here at home"... can someone explain this>

Question

A lot of people say that the wars in Afganistan and Iraq (and perhaps soon Iran) are good because it keeps the terrorists "over there". And if we pull out - these people say - we'll have to fight them here at home.

Does this argument have any merit or validity?

Isn't it inevitable that we'll have to fight terrorism here anyway. And, in fact, that making war against other countrries might only increase the chances of terrorist attacks at home?

What do you think?

Answer 1

That arguement has zero validity--it is simply propaganda.

Here is proof: If--as the right-wing claims--the terrorists aredetermined to attack the US, they would have done so. First, our borders have been open the past 5 years (since 9/11). In addition, they clearly have the ability to stage attackes--proven in Madrid and London.

I don't doubt that the terrorists do represent some degree of threat. But they clearly aren't all that determined to carry their criminal activities to the USA--they could have done so easily enough. So the notion that we "have to fight them over there" is nonsense.

Which should be obvious anyway--these are simply a few groups of criminals and fanatis whou can--and should be--ealt with as the criminals they are, not turned into a political boogyman to excuse invasions of foreign countries or--more to the point--violating the Constitution and the civil liberties of the American people.

Answer 2

Where you on 9/11.
They did come here and we took the war to them.
Guess what no terrorists attacks on US soils since Flight 93 ended it.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee we are at war and have been for some time.
Maybe you need a refresher course.
Marine Barracks in Beurit
WTC attack #1
USS Cole
American embassies in Africa
9/11
That us how about the rest of the world.
Marid train bombings
London bus bombings
for a more up to date list.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

Or we should appease them and maybe we go away that doesn't work and never has work.

Since we bomb them in Afganistan and Iraq.
What happen in Lybia remember that they cough up their weapons programs without a shot being fired.

Or maybe we should just sit here and take it what the heck about about trillion dollars 9/11 costs and 3000 lives big deal right.


Name me 1 problem that is solved by running away from it and not dealing with it.

Chamberline was right they did have peace in their time but at what cost instead of dealing with it earlier.

WE ARE AT WAR and there are Muslim terrorists that want you dead.

The sooner you get that in your head you would stop with this needless questions and face it the evil.

Answer 3

The terrorists just want to kill Westerners, period. They don't care when/where/how that happens either. The fact that we're going and fighting them on their turf is perfectly fine with them. It just makes it easier for them to kill our people! It is true that there have been no terrorist attacks on United States soil since 9/11 but how many soldiers have died for the cause in Afghanistan and Iraq? So, we're hardly getting off easy back here at home. Brave men and women are still dying every-day over there...

So, I think that the statement does make a bit of sense. It just sucks that either way death is involved. Yes, we're distracting the terrorists from hitting America's homefront but every-time they kill another soldier they're hitting America again, aren't they?

Answer 4

It does sound very logical. Unfortunately that also means that Iraqi, Afgani, and Iranian citizens get caught in the crossfire. It does seem that terrorists have traditionally targetted western interests abroad rather than at home, so now the U.S. army in Iraq is a western interest overseas which is easier for them to get to and thus eases the danger at home.

Answer 5

no it dont but your headline is rebutted by your facts
with what you wrote below i agree
this cccrap about reds under the bed
;first strike , strike them before they supposedly strike us was proved wrong at pearl harbour as well as many times in our histry
its war based hysteria ,japan was pushed up against the wall
it foolishly did what we have just done ,
it was wrong then and wrong now
allways was
allways will be
fear stops thought
the orrational SEEMS rational but is based on fear


japan felt it could get advantage in the pearl harbour [proved delusional and look at the cost of the end game] just as the first strike at iraq etc

only fools keep repeating the failures of the past thinking a different result
i hope we are past the time we elect fools

Answer 6

It is essentially the absolute weakest argument for the current actions abroad that could possibly be made !! As if any of the current actions are diverting any of the attentions from any of these radicals away from their desire to inflict damage and/or death within this country on any opportunity that they could find !!
If they could----they would---and actions abroad are only strengthening the desire of others to join the fight for they are more and more seeing us as the aggressors and viewing us more and more as runaway demigods !!
War does not make friends !!!

Answer 7

well, in theory...this is correct. see, in world war 2 for example japan was planning and trying to invade our west coast. remember, they bombed hawaii. they were even testing these huge balloons that would float across the pacific and fall over california.

by us fighting japan OVER THERE we kept them away from our coasts.

just like germany would have eventually invaded england and then the next step would have been them getting over here. so, we went over there.

now, in this new war...we aren't fighting a government or a country we are fighting against religious nutbags that are never, ever going to stop trying to kill us. so, if we can go over there and take out a bunch of them, it's less that can get over here.

in reality, the only way to win this war is to go over there and kill everyone. period. that's the only way to make a big enough dent to make the message stick.

Answer 8

i think of this fact is meant to advise that throughout the time of Iraq there are a number of terrorist firms (which includes AL-quida) resisting western forces presence which is going to apply up a large type of manpower and components, yet in addition that america is concentrated on al-quida operatives in the two Iraq and Afghanistan which all enables to cut back the risk of a bad terrorist attack on western soil- which includes 9/11 or 7/7.

Answer 9

if we dont take the fight to them they will bring it to us is true we have had some attacks in the past like one poster said by not fighting over there we will be vonerable to more attacks our enemies wont quit their god wants them to fight .we will quit this war but will we regret it latter how many lives will we lose by leaving only god knows.

Answer 10

Bush's #1 scare Tactic