i dont think we do,,,,,, i could look at you, and form an objective opinion of your reality, but what meaning would that have? you would have your own definition of what your reality was, anything from the outside is just that,,,,i guess my opinion of your reality would become part of my reality,,,,,,,,what outside of ourselves could define our reality???
2007-02-16 11:05:33
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answer #1
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answered by dlin333 7
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The closest proof we have to objective reality is the common denominator - the consistency of experience.
That is to say: the only things that are objectively "real" are what can be experienced by anything (a set which contains every*one*).
For most of human experience, there was no way to objectively measure most things. Even color is subjective - what is to say that what I call the color "blue" is what you call the color "blue"? We are seeing the same thing, thus we can agree to call it "blue", but how can we be sure we're seeing it the same way? Perhaps if I had your eyes, what I thought was "blue" would actually look more like "red"?
But with the advent of true science, we've discovered ways to describe things which are less subjective. Now, instead of saying, "shine a blue light over here", I can say "shine a light of 477 nanometers here", which is a considerably less subjective description - so much less subjective, in fact, that even someone who has been blind from birth (and thus never saw *anything* blue) could do it! So we're slowly learning to describe our experiences in more objective ways. (I suppose one could argue that we're simply pushing the boundaries of convention back futher, making it appear that things are less subjective, but that's another whole discussion there.)
So is a table hard? Not to an electron, it isn't - it's actually quite porous. But an electron is still affected by the elecromagnetic force, and a neutron is still affected by the strong nuclear force... And so there is some consistency between ourselves and atomic particles.
Science attempts to describe the natural world as objectively and consistently as possible, and I think it's only that consistency that allows us to have a concept of an "independent" reality. And conversely it's only unpredictability that allows us to conceive of a subjective reality. If everything worked precisely as we presupposed every time, I doubt we would even seriously consider the concept of a reality that was not independent of our experience.
As for your proof: anyone who attempts to "prove" that reality exists independently is on a fools errand. Take a look at Godel's Incompleteness theorem, and you'll see why: he proved (mathematically) that any system which is capable of proving all the true statements within it will inescapably also "prove" some false statements, such that the false ones will be indistinguishable from the true. And any system which is capable of proving all false statements false will inevitably "prove" some true statements to be false, such that they will be indistinguishable as well. So you can never prove all true statements true AND all false statements false at the same time.
So the most you can ever hope to prove, really, is that reality is self-consistent. And if it appears not to be, then there's probably something we haven't yet learned.
2007-02-16 12:48:04
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answered by Nobody Special 1
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Yes, the world does exist objectively outside our perceptions but due to cultural and societal constraints, our perceptions are very foggy. Some people live in their own little worlds; they see the world through a sort of 'prefabricated value template' in which subjective values are absolute.
Instead, people have lost their ability, or rather their willingness to diverge from the 'herd-mentality'; the subjective realm, and enter into an objective realm, perceiving and interpreting, and, most importantly, evaluating.
All sentient beings must live with some subjective concept of the universe or else we will become nihilists. The problem lies in the fact that, where there was once individual interpretations of the world, individuals began clumping together into herds and brought their concepts of the universe with them. These concepts, like ingredients in a boiling pot, morphed and mutated into consensual evaluations shared by everybody in the herd. To question such absoluteness was to commit heresy.
Society is currently at a breaking point where its empirically objective 'science' is disproving all this subjectiveness. Sooner or later, society will find all these silly subjects completely preposterous and will begin shedding all subjective values. This, unfortunately is nihilism.
What ought to be understood is that individual development of how we see, hear, taste, smell and feel the world is something that is much more fulfilling in our lives than meekly follow the values of another, or worse, ascribing to no values whatsoever.
2007-02-16 12:35:16
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answered by Smokey 2
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Absolutely, we do(live in objective reality that exists independently from our perceptions.) I don't know about any books, but my example would simple be this. My boss passes by me grimacing without saying "hi." I think I've done something wrong. Or, how 'bout this: a very pretty young woman smiles at me and says "hi." All of a sudden my spirits lift and I start thinking I might have a chance of forming a romantic bond with her.
So, reality and perception. The latter affects the former as to how we view things and what is really true.
2007-02-16 11:19:02
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answered by soulguy85 6
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This is a reasonable question, that has only a functional, but not a complete answer. This is true of many philosophy questions, when the seem abstract, ask yourself how can I test this in the real world.
If you decide to assume that no reality exists independantly from your perception, close your eyes spin around a bunch of times and run straight ahead for as long as you can. See what happens
If you decide to assume that a reality exists independant of your perception then go sit beside a beautiful waterfall and relax. See what happens
Which experiment did you find pleasant? Which experiment did you do first?
2007-02-16 11:30:40
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answered by oneirondreamer 3
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in the previous I answer, some provisos: a million) in trouble-free terms in a very slender experience do i trust it actual that we create reality through interplay. 2) Your professor/instructor needs your human being suggestions and not in any respect mine, so this can be a attitude, and could no longer be plagiarized. That suggested, there are 5 aspects to each and each and every communication: a) What the speaker intends to assert b) What the speaker says c) What the receiver hears d) What the receiver thinks the speaker suggested e) What the receiver thinks the speaker intends to decline one communicates completely, so people, at the same time as they interact, instinctively create frames of reference - interpretive regulations - to help them comprehend others.. except for, at the same time as someone receiving a message translates the message, they deliver about which means from the message they listen. If the speaker is skillful in his presentation (and if the receiver is an effective listener), the created which means will, more beneficial or a lot less, resemble the speaker's meant which means. If both get mutually is clumsy or distracted, the which means accumulated would no longer resemble the message in any respect. get mutually a guy would intend to inform a youthful female that he recognizes that she has replaced her coiffure and that he likes it. except for, because he accidentally indignant her a week in the previous, he's attempting to augment her and enable her understand circuitously that he's sorry. Presentation guy: "Your hair looks fairly solid immediately." female (plausible created which means a million) - He hated my very last coiffure. (plausible created which means 2) - He referred to my new coiffure and likes it. perhaps he did not advise to ruin my emotions. the female creates an hostile or a forgiving ecosystem depending upon her interpretations. How she translates impacts reality. desire this helps.
2016-12-04 06:43:20
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answered by ? 4
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Perception is reality, so there you go. The only thing objective is the stuff we use to construct out realities.
2007-02-16 11:08:44
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answered by Anonymous
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it is absolutely required as there are so many subjective realities that they must have a unified plane to exist in. otherwise all would be chaos.Your personal reality does have impact but it is not overwhelming. there is sort of a consensus reality that in relation to you is objective reality.
2007-02-16 11:08:58
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answered by Anonymous
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You may not exist. I may have asked this question. I refute such a proposition thus (Kicks rock) Ouch.
2007-02-16 11:04:33
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answered by Anonymous
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I remember thnking one day that we all existed inside GODS mind, that everything that goes on is GODS thoughts and we are the offspring of his thoughts. LOL...how stupid. We exist and what we feel and touch is really there. You will need to die to yourself, to see what is on the other side of life.
2007-02-16 11:05:14
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answered by EyeKneadPoints 3
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