The guys with the 'agenda' will have you believe only what they want you to believe. As the posting underneath this one correctly observes, there is more than meets the eye in statistical data. Here are some important factors ALWAYS to consider :
*WHO'se data is this?
*HOW credible is the entity, how much of an authority are they on the subject? Is the information balanced and impartial? Might there be a hidden agenda?
*HOW was the research done (type and metholdology, sample size, etc)? How representative really is this data? What might the researchers have done WRONG?
*WHAT IS MISSING from the "Big Picture"? The poster below alluded to this also:
1. DEGREE OF SEVERITY (of the violence)
When fundamentally important bits and pieces are missing it is a surefire indication that the research was flawed and the accuracy of the findings therefore suspect.
Further to your question, women are much more likely to be afraid, and for good reason. My source is the Government of Canada ; the data from this survey can be extrapolated and applied to similar industrialised countries:
"The most complete information about the extent of spousal abuse in Canada comes from the 1999 General Social Survey on Victimization (GSS).7 This victimization survey asked almost 26,000 women and men in Canada about their experiences of abuse including experiences of violence and emotional abuse in their current or previous marriages and common law partnerships. According to the GSS, women and men experience similar rates of both violence and emotional abuse in their relationships. THE SURVEY FOUND, HOWEVER, THAT THE VIOLENCE EXPERIENCED BY WOMEN TENDS TO BE MORE SEVERE - AND MORE OFTEN REPEATED - than the violence directed at men.
For example, compared to men, women were:
-six times more likely to report being sexually
assaulted
- five times more likely to report being choked
- five times more likely to require medical
attention, as a result of an assault
-three times more likely to be physically injured by
an assault
-more than twice as likely to report being beaten
-almost twice as likely to report being threatened with, or having a gun or knife used against them
-much more likely to fear for their lives, or be afraid for their children as a result of the violence
-more likely to have sleeping problems, suffer depression or anxiety attacks, or have lowered self-esteem as a result of being abused, and -more likely to report repeated victimization.8
Some researchers have noted that the survey also found that women experience higher levels of certain types of emotional abuse. Compared to men, women:
-were four times more likely to report being threatened, harmed, or having someone close to them threatened or harmed
-were four times more likely to report being denied access to family income
-were more than twice as likely to report having their property damaged or their possessions destroyed -reported a higher incidence of being isolated from family and friends, and
-reported a higher rate of name-calling and put downs.9
Homicide data reveals that women are also at higher risk of being killed by their husbands. In the past two decades, three times as many wives were killed by their husbands, as husbands killed by wives.10
2007-02-16 11:23:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Gabe, that was an elegant response. I liked your comment at the end, because it is the be all and end all of my purpose as well. That's why I can't stand the feminist garbage that spews forth. I will acknowledge that it is possible that men commit slightly more violence than women (although I suspect, after reading your study and others, that it is the reverse), I know that I have a personal anecdote in which I did NOT initiate the physical violence and got a scar across my face.
That said, to answer the poster's question, the truth is that women are probably more afraid because of the garbage feminists cram down the throats of society.
Now a reply to Baba Yaga: Those statistical principles you brought about were indeed accurate, but the study you cite, in addition to being a broken link, is based on something called the "sample survey."
Depending on the size, they can be valuable, but once again, men do not report abuse NEARLY as often as women do. Furthermore, your study is a little dated, as Gabe's is.
In addition, statements like "20 times" don't take into consideration that one man could be killed while 20 women were killed. At that kind of scale, the statistic is negligible. One final statistical principle; one sample that has a preponderance of one extreme STRONGLY affects the mean. That's your "20 Times" figure. I'd like to see a breakup of province, a breakup of major city complexes.
When you combine all that and the fact that nearly NO legislation exists that is biased against women in the regard of domestic violence (VAWA, anybody?) it becomes very clear that perhaps women aren't as disadvantaged and abused as people think.
2007-02-17 02:28:44
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answered by Anonymous
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Rates do not make much difference to violence perpetrated. Men are so far ahead of women in amount of damage done in assaults that it is comparing apples to oranges, to compare male and female assault rates. It is obvious from the " real " data, that women should be more afraid. Men kill women at a rate the can approach 20 times the rate women kill men. These new statistical analysis that are showing that the rate of assault is even, or even in the favor of women over men, are doing all a great disservice. It is a relativism that is just a reverse of feminist relativism. This misapprehension of the data, though, can bring the attention off the real happenings and on to some " red herring ". I do not understand where this perspective is coming from, but as a scientist, only the truth interests me; not someones ideological rant.
PS Robison O. That twenty times figure is a FBI national statistic that counts the bodies and the convictions for murder, sex vs sex. You confuse a discontinuous, descriptive, statistic, with a continuous study. You do know the difference between descriptive and inferential statistics, don't you? Brute numbers are just that. I suggest you pay more attention in those AP statistics classes you are taking.
2007-02-16 12:32:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Take a look at this study sponsored by the University of New Hampshire. It hardly paints either gender in a completely innocent light, but it's sad that there is so little uproar concerning violence against men.
http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V56.pdf
Since certain people refuse to actually read this essay (baba yaga), I'll say that this data was drawn from The national alcohol and family violence survey, back in 1992. There are not more recent studies because violence toward men is simply not an issue that is at the top of out feminicentric government (a topic to be discussed later).
As for HOW credible the entity is, and HOW the research was done, and WHAT IS MISSING from “The Big Picture,” I leave that to you. But before you dismiss what I submit, you should ask yourself: “Why haven’t I concurred with Gabe’s statement that there isn’t enough of an uproar about violence toward men, but instead regurgitated yet again some mysterious statistics on domestic violence in Canada, and then gave this group a dead link to back my claims?”
To Jonmcn49, why exactly is comparing violence toward women and violence toward men akin to comparing apples to oranges? Also, where are these “real” data to which you refer? To paraphrase Baba Yaga on what seems like countless occasions, Where is your evidence? I doubt anybody can divine what “new” statistical evidence will serve your intention of refuting or discrediting a legitimate study sponsored by the University of New Hampshire (I doubt you’ll make any friends there with your attitude), and I HARDLY think that calling such a study a red herring will positively distinguish you either. In any case, I doubt you’ve even read the study. Otherwise a true scientist would not dismiss either that or my submissions as ideological rants. If you do, please show yourself some dignity and back up your claim in any of the challenges I lay down. Finally, I think that if he is calling my submission a rant, then a true scientist will either back his claim or apologize. I await one or the other, but please expect a rebuttal if I disagree with yours.
I remain faithful to the truth, wherever it takes me,
Gabe
2007-02-16 10:30:08
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answered by Gabe 2
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They throw the crockery.Men have every right to be afraid.They get flung out of the house.They lose the property and then they see the fella mum picked up at the hotel move into the house then they have to deal with in-laws.Violence goes both ways but get a wife coming home late after loosing heaps at the pokies then you have one very violent individual.Just watch women after a funeral when there is a disputed will involved.
2007-02-23 18:14:14
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answered by melbournewooferblue 4
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I am not sure, but think about this: a wife is pissed off at her husband and she hits him on the back of the head, we would not think that much of it, but if the husband were to do the same we would call him an abuser and send him off to jail. I actually think women hit men more not often, but not always out of rage. Its like when a girl is playing with her boyfriend and knee jerks him in the nuts, we will laugh, but if he were to hit her and cause her pain even though they were playing we would take it seriously. Men in our society are supposed to be able to take pain, women are not, so we can cry foul when we get hit. Its just another horrible double standard in our society.
2007-02-19 01:31:23
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answered by trinigal33167 2
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2016-10-02 06:30:52
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't know the stats, but you hear about men beating women more than vice versa, because most men are ashamed to admit their wife or girlfriend beats them.
2007-02-23 02:21:42
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answered by Mad About Purple 5
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Women start 50% of all male/female physical attacks.
Men finish 100% of the attacks.
Courts will send the man to jail.
Courts will let the woman off free.
We live in The Feminist Republic of America.
2007-02-16 19:48:38
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answered by Anonymous
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men are afraid of the razor sharp tounge of women and women they arent afraid of anything . hence prooved men are the suppressed ones thouh they wear a mask of manliness they are very much afraid of the mother in childhood , girlfriend in teenage and wife on maturity
2007-02-23 22:20:36
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answered by xxsanxx 5
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When I have looked up domestic violence, the first link is on women beating men.
2007-02-23 13:07:44
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answered by Anonymous
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