Does this facts prove that greeks are stolling Macedonian history?? Macedonia and Alexander were never greeks?

Answer 1

What facts do you mean?
If you want real facts let me give you an example!
Everyone (and I mean everyone) agrees that the Ancient Macedonians were Greeks.
A). Archaeological evidence. First of all Macedonians were speaking a Greek dialect and it is very easily proved from archaeological evidence! All the inscriptions found in the Macedonia are written in Greek language. All the coins and other artifacts are written in Greek. There are no ancient monuments with a different language. The architecture and culture is typical Greek, the cities are build in the typical Greek way and the monuments that have been found in authentic Macedonia of Greece are of the best examples of Greek art. All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names.
B) The ancient Macedonians were participating in the Greeks only Olympic Games and that alone is one of the strongest evidence of how the other Greeks were accepting them as Greeks! The first one was Alexander the first (great-great-great grandfather of Alexander the great) {Alexander the first was asked (as every other Greek had to) to prove his Greek origin before participating to the Olympic Games! And Alexander proved his GREEK ORIGIN from the city of ARGOS (the Macedonians themselves claimed Argos as their origin!)
C) As I said above the ancient Macedonians were claiming descent from southern Greece; from the Greek city state of Argos.) The royal family claimed origin from demigod Hercules himself and Alexander’s mother (Olympias) claimed origin from divine Achilles. Here are some quotes (no room for all!!!) from the ancient writers about the origin of the ancient Macedonians as it was said by the Macedonians themselves!!
"It is agreed on by all hands, that on the father's side, Alexander descended from Hercules by Caranus, and from Aeacus by Neoptolemus on the mother's side"
(Plutarch, The Life of Alexander)
“Now that the men of this family are Greeks, sprung from Perdiccas, as they themselves affirm, is a thing which I can declare on my own knowledge, and which I will hereafter make plainly evident. That they are so has been already adjudged by those who manage the Pan-Hellenic contest at Olympia" (Herodotus, The Histories 8.43)
"… But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I (Alexander) imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and desire that victorious Greeks should dance again in India and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos...' " (Plutarchos, On the Fortune of Alexander, 332 a-b)
(And hundreds more. Not enough room to mention them all!!!!!)
D) Every respectful scholar agrees that ancient Macedonians were Greeks. Very, very few are still skeptic of how pure Greeks they were! No one claims that they were not at all Greeks!!! Even the Slav-Macedonian archeologists from the modern (Slavic/Albanian) republic agree that they were Greeks!!!!
\Nicholas G. L. Hammond, ‘Philip of Macedon’ Duckworth Publishing, February 1998
"Philip was born a Greek of the most aristocratic, indeed of divine, descent... Philip was both a Greek and a Macedonian, even as Demosthenes was a Greek and an Athenian...The Macedonians over whom Philip was to rule were an outlying family member of the Greek-speaking peoples." And "What language did these `Macedones' speak? The name itself is Greek in root and in ethnic termination. It probably means `highlanders', and it is comparable to Greek tribal names such as `Orestai' and `Oreitai', meaning 'mountain-men'. A reputedly earlier variant, `Maketai', has the same root, which means `high', as in the Greek adjective makednos or the noun mekos. The genealogy of eponymous ancestors which Hesiod recorded [.] has a bearing on the question of Greek speech. First, Hesiod made Macedon a brother of Magnes; as we know from inscriptions that the Magnetes spoke the Aeolic dialect of the Greek language, we have a predisposition to suppose that the Macedones spoke the Aeolic dialect. Secondly, Hesiod made Macedon and Magnes first cousins of Hellen's three sons - Dorus, Xouthus, and Aeolus-who were the founders of three dialects of Greek speech, namely Doric, Ionic, and Aeolic. Hesiod would not have recorded this relationship, unless he had believed, probably in the seventh century that the Macedones were a Greek speaking people. The next evidence comes from Persia. At the turn of the sixth century the Persians described the tribute-paying peoples of their province in Europe, and one of them was the `yauna takabara', which meant `Greeks wearing the hat'. There were Greeks in Greek city-states here and there in the province, but they were of various origins and not distinguished by a common hat. However, the Macedonians wore a distinctive hat, the kausia. We conclude that the Persians believed the Macedonians to be speakers of Greek. (N.G.L. Hammond, The Macedonian State, p.12-13
\And Malcolm Errington, ‘A History of Macedonia’ (University of California Press, February 1993, pg 3) "That the Macedonians and their kings did in fact speak a dialect of Greek and bore Greek names may be regarded nowadays as certain." And “Ancient allegations that the Macedonians were non-Greeks all had their origin in Athens at the time of the struggle with Philip II. Then as now, political struggle created the prejudice. The orator Aeschines once even found it necessary, …, to defend Philip on this issue and describe him at a meeting of the Athenian Popular Assembly as being 'Entirely Greek'. ….their fundamental Greek nationality was never doubted. " And even Eugene Borza who at first was not sure if the ancient Macedonians were pure Greeks he is know clearly convinced!!!!!! “ Eugene N. Borza, ‘Makedonika’ Regina Books, Claremont CA "Our understanding of the Macedonians' emergence into history is confounded by two events: the establishment of the Macedonians as an identifiable ethnic group, and the foundation of their ruling house. The "HIGHLANDERS" or "MAKEDONES" of the mountainous regions of western Macedonia ARE DERIVED FROM NORTHWEST GREEK STOCK; THEY WERE AKIN BOTH TO THOSE WHO AT AN EARLIER TIME MAY HAVE MIGRATED SOUTH TO BECOME THE HISTORICAL "DORIANS", and to other Pindus tribes who were the ancestors of the Epirotes or Molossians. That is, we may suggest that NORTHWEST GREECE PROVIDED A POOL OF INDO-EUROPEAN SPEAKERS OF PROTO-GREEK from which were drawn the tribes who later were known by different names as they established their regional identities in separate parts of the country." And "First, the matter of the Greek origins of the Macedonians: Nicholas Hammond's general conclusion (though not the details of his arguments)that the origin of the Macedonians lies in the pool of proto-Greek speakers who migrated out of the Pindus mountains during the Iron Age, is acceptable."
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Answer 2

This question is so propagandistic you even forgot to place the ''facts''!!!You people are so pathetic. Of course there aren't any true facts because the whole world knows that the ancient Macedonians were Greek , spoke Greek , believed in Greek gods, had Greek names, Greek customs , Greek culture .Alexander was proud to be a Hellene and spread the Hellenic culture all over the world creating a whole time era called Hellenistic times. STOP THE FYROMIAN PROPAGANDA. The FYROMIANS can continue applying for Bulgarian passports , their only way to enter the EU , and stop stealing Greek history .

Answer 3

Offcourse macedonia is Greece and Alexander was greek. FYROM is an ex-yugoslavian state and this means that they are slavs.Slavic people came in this area in 6th century so they have no relation with the macedonians who were and are greeks. (macedonians-macedonia-Northern Greece.)

Answer 4

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMacedonia/MacedoniansNotGreeks.html
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMacedonia/map.html

Answer 5

Alexander was Macedonian not a greek.Macedonia for the Macedonians

Answer 6

If a king of Greece was a Danish, I wonder if the Greeks were Danishes, or the Danishes were Greeks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_I_of_Greece
The history is a universal science and belongs to all nations.

Answer 7

After Macedonia's annexation and partition in 1912-1913, Greece instituted policies to forcibly assimilate the Macedonian population within its newly acquired territories. Those who could not be assimilated were either executed or expelled from the country.
Macedonians who would not comply with Greece's racist policies became political refugees, seeking shelter throughout the world. Most of them emigrated to Europe, Canada, the United States and later to Australia. By sheer force and terror, Greece managed to silence the Macedonians living within its borders.
1. Among others, there is a Macedonian national minority living in Greece, which Greece refuses to recognize on the absurd pretence that the Modern Greek state is racially homogeneous. Greece categorically denies the existence of any ethnic or national minorities living within its borders and misrepresents itself as being a pure state.
2. Greece still refuses to acknowledge its northern neighbour, the Republic of Macedonia, by its constitutional name on the pretence that it has territorial claims against Greece. To ease Greek anxieties the Macedonian parliament went so far as to modify its constitution to explicitly state that Macedonia has no territorial claims toward any of its neighbours.
Greece, along with its allies Serbia and Bulgaria, annexed Macedonia by force in 1912 and partitioned it in 1913 without the consent of the Macedonian people. As a result of this forceful act, Greece illegally acquired 51% of Macedonia's territory, which it immediately named "New Territories". A few years later as it consolidated its power and control over the Macedonian people, Greece renamed the "New Territories" to "Northern Greece". Then during the late 1980's, when it became clear that the Republic of Macedonia was going to declare its independence from Yugoslavia, Greece renamed "Northern Greece" to "Macedonia" or more precisely "Makethonia".. Let me also remind them that during the Metaxas period use of the term "Macedonia" was suppressed. Greece was more than willing to be rid of the name Macedonia until the late 1980s when it became clear that Yugoslavia was disintegrating and the Macedonians wanted independence.
While the Republic of Macedonia has made enormous efforts to become democratic in every respect, especially in the recognition of its minorities and in fostering and promoting multiculturalism, Greece, has done the opposite.
Greece has tirelessly worked to eradicate and silence its minorities through torture, intimidation, assimilation and expulsion. As a consequence of such racist policies, today there are hundreds of thousands of Macedonians living in the Diaspora. To this we can include the tens of thousands of Macedonian refugee children who were evacuated during the Greek Civil War and who are still denied re-entry because they refuse to falsify their Macedonian heritage and declare themselves as "Greeks by genus."
If I may add, if Greece truly believes "historic Macedonia is Greek" why did it sign the Treaty of Bucharest on August 10, 1913 agreeing to divide it between itself, Serbia and Bulgaria? Why did Greece, while signing this treaty, not complain to the Great Powers that the entire territory of historic "Macedonia belonged to Greece"?
If Greece truly believed the name "Macedonia is Greek" why didn't it NOT complain when the Peoples' Republic of Macedonia was declared part of the Yugoslav federacy in 1945?
Also, if Greece is so much concerned about other nations using the name "Macedonia" why has it not complained to the United States of America for its use of the name Macedonia in US territory? Why is it that only Macedonians are not allowed to call their country Macedonia?
If "Macedonians are Greek", why did Greece change all Macedonian toponyms, family and given names to Greek sounding ones? Why did Greece forbid the use of the Macedonian language and made it illegal in Macedonia?
If "Macedonians are Greek" from many centuries ago, why did Greece implement assimilation policies to forcibly turn Macedonians into Greeks?
If "Macedonians are Greek", why then are Macedonians born in Greece, who left Greece, not allowed to return? Are there two kinds of Macedonians living in Greece? Those who feel Macedonian and those who serve the Greek cause?
If "Macedonians are Greeks" after all these years, why hasn't Greece recognized them as a distinct national Macedonian minority? By "Macedonians" I mean those Macedonian people who are indigenous to the Macedonia territory that is today under Greek control. By Macedonian people I mean those people that lived in Macedonia before the 1912/1913 occupation and annexation. By Macedonian people I don't mean those people who were imported from Asia Minor and settled on Macedonian territory during the early 1920's or those people who were imported from Albania, the Caucuses and other realms.

Answer 8

You got that right Buddy!!!