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Right wingers keep calling Clinton a socialist.

Socialism can be defined in 1 sentence, and is not vaguely related to anything she has said.

Taxation is not socialism.

Taxation on windfall profits is not socialism, so don't waste everyone's time with her statement about oil profits.

2007-02-16 08:10:41 · 11 answers · asked by bettysdad 5 in Politics & Government Politics

Karl Marx was not a Communist.

Universal single payor health care is not socialism, no matter how hard you try.

2007-02-16 09:06:26 · update #1

So far, no one has been able to present a single connection between the Senator and actual socialism.

2007-02-16 09:08:33 · update #2

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Exactly,Clinton like her husband is a moderate.People who call her far left define the center of politics on the right.
Even right wingers like Tony Blankly,Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich recognize the FACT that Clinton is moderate.
People calling her a communist are far right and don't have anything to back that claim up.They clearly have no idea what communism is or what Hillary stands for.
In a broader sense this is part of the continued effort of the right in America to demonize anyone remotely left or even moderate as the Clintons by calling them socialists or communists.

2007-02-16 08:21:40 · answer #1 · answered by justgoodfolk 7 · 1 0

Socialism can be defined in one sentance? Now there is a thought. Not a good one mind you, but a thought.

Oh, and Karl Marx was a Communist not a socialist. If you want to compare Hillary to a communist, that is your business I guess.

Is she still for Universal health insurance with the government as sole payor? If so, that is socialism.

Actually I prefer to think of Hillary as Groucho Marx in drag. Now THERE is a mental picture (grin)

Sorry, not saying I am voting for any particular party yet, but I just can't see voting for Hillary, whatever she is.

-Dio

Additional:

Karl Marx: For Marx, a communist society entails the absence of differing social classes and thus the end of class warfare. According to Marx, once private property had been abolished, the state would then "wither away" and humanity would move on to a higher stage of society, communism.

Sounds communistic to me.
If you want his direct quote on the subject, I will look it up.

Single Payor Government Health Care:

Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state.


Thus, Single Payor Health care is not socialism. Single Payor Health Care with the Government being the payor, by definition is social control of the medical system.

Your Rebuttal?

2007-02-16 16:19:26 · answer #2 · answered by diogenese19348 6 · 2 2

It merely goes to the heart of the matter that Hillary Clinton is going to win the presidency in 2008 and it really hurts the feelings of the conservatives. So instead of meeting her on the real issues, they make up things and try to make comparisons to ideologies and people who have been dead for decades.

2007-02-16 16:21:37 · answer #3 · answered by Jackson Leslie 5 · 2 1

Her Human Resources Development Plan for the United States (education reform), conceived by Marc Tucker
"What is essential is that we create a seamless web of opportunities to develop one's skills that literally extends from cradle to grave and is the same system for everyone -- young and old, poor and rich, worker and full-time student." In detail what has since become the new School-to-Work curriculum, in which the government plans your life for you, just the way it was done in the old Soviet bloc nations in Eastern Europe. An example of this new approach to education can be found in the Exploris middle school in North Carolina and a related “global experience center.” EGI works with the U.N. Association to promote “Model U.N.” programs in public schools, in which students learn about the organization by acting like ambassadors. TAF distributes a publication, The United Nations, Come Along with Me!, conceived and written by Nane Anna.the Clintons modeled their own Arkansas Governor’s School, designed for gifted and talented high school students, on the Exploris concept. Grove City, Pennsylvania, one elementary school teaching outcome-based education was caught having students reciting and signing a “pledge of allegiance to the world.” The written pledge was printed on a certificate-like form that has the U.N. logo at the top. At the World Economic Forum, Mrs. Clinton described how her husband had spoken of their educational scheme “providing better educational opportunities, so that we have more of our people trained so they can take the jobs that are available in the global economy.Hillary and Magaziner in 1992 wrote an article in Education Leadership about channeling students into selected jobs by granting them each a “certificate of initial mastery” for certain skills.
The Education Reporter newsletter says the goal is to achieve “interlocking control over both the public school system and the nation’s economy.”
She is a staunch supporter of the World Federalist Association (WFA), a controversial organization which openly advocates world government. The WFA says that by adding more power, authority and functions to the United Nations, “national sovereignty would be gradually eroded until it is no longer an issue.” The group promotes “global citizenship” and such international agencies as the International Criminal Court (ICC), a “World Disarmament Authority” to control the weapons of the world, nuclear and even small arms; and an independent “peacekeeping” army for the U.N.Clinton Administration signed the U.N. treaty to create an ICC.
One of Mrs. Clinton’s favorite U.N. agencies, the U.N. Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM), has a slogan, “Women Hold Up Half the Sky,” which was used during the age of Chinese Communist mass murderer Mao Tse Tung to highlight the role of women in the Communist revolution. Mrs. Clinton adopted the slogan as her own in a speech to the U.N.
Hillary Care-- Hillary Care.. Needs no explanation
How she reacted to other ideas
"Gentlemen, I have looked at your proposal, and it's pure bullsh*t! Now you've had your meeting! Get out!"
-Hillary's only words when she meets with health insurance executives who had a proposal of their own for health care reform, circa 1993; Unlimited Access, p. 88, by Gary Aldrich, Regnery Publishing Inc. 1996.

Energy-At the Democratic National Committee in Baltimore on Friday. “I want to take those profits,” Clinton said, “and put them into an alternative energy fund that will begin to fund alternative smart energy alternatives that will actually begin to move us toward the direction of independence.” She has openly called for the government seizure of an industries profits.
This could go on FOREVER

2007-02-16 16:54:30 · answer #4 · answered by bereal1 6 · 3 1

Hillary has much in common with the socialist leaders like Marxs, Lennon, Stalin ect...

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." [Nikita Khrushchev , February 25, 1956 20th Congress of the Communist Party]

"We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." [Hillary Clinton, 1993]

Like for example, both are against individual rights and for the collective.

2007-02-16 16:20:48 · answer #5 · answered by radical4capitalism 3 · 1 3

No, people don't call her a socialist for her windfall profits comment. I call her a socialist for her "It takes a village to raise a child" comment. As a single man with no kids, why should I have any responsibility to raise anyone elses kids? Kids these days are running Amok and parents don't take any responisibilty for their loud obnoxious children. There should be more reponsibilty placed on parents and not on society.

2007-02-16 16:16:40 · answer #6 · answered by Relax Guy 5 · 1 3

Nope, I don't call her a socialist, I just call her a good target for the right person.

2007-02-16 16:15:50 · answer #7 · answered by Kevin A 6 · 0 1

All she is asking for is a tiny tiny bit of money. The oil company's will gladly accommodate her.

2007-02-16 16:16:38 · answer #8 · answered by GO HILLARY 7 · 3 2

There is no such thing as "excess profits".

In the free market system, companies are free to make as much money as they can.

2007-02-16 16:14:41 · answer #9 · answered by theearlybirdy 4 · 2 3

the clinton's are capitalists. look at their portfolio's.

2007-02-16 16:34:50 · answer #10 · answered by ? 2 · 1 0

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