How do you convert a water saving toiliet to one that's not?

Question

It dosen't fill up properly and dosen't flush without topping the water out in the back. So there is not enough pressure to flush it twice in row.

Answer 1

Some Of The Low Flow Commodes all you Have To Do Is Change The Flapper. You can Change it from 1.6 Gallon Flush To A 3.5 Gallon Flush

Answer 2

Technically you can't convert it. First check and see if there is a brand name imprinted on the bowl behind the seat. If not it is a cheap worthless brand and you will do yourself a favor by just replacing it. If the toilet is more than 10 years old it may pay you to replace it also since the flush technology has changed considerably since then. Most recent toilets do an okay job of flushing, just make sure you don't by the cheapest one out there.

However, you can do several things to make any toilet work better even if it is junk. 1) Make sure all the ports in the bowl are free of deposits. Take a coat hanger and punch out the big hole in the bottom (siphon jet) if it has one. Then punch out the holes under the rim. This will allow the water to flow at the speed and volume it is supposed to. 2) Look inside the tank and adjust the fill valve - too many types to give you the steps - to the highest level you can without the water flowing into the tube in the middle (overflow), about 1/2" from the top. Consider that the fill valve may need to be replaced if the water runs in too slow or is very noisy. 3) If the flapper chain has a float on it consider either adjusting it down the chain to allow more water to flow out of the tank or replacing it with a regular type that doesn't require a float. This last step, in essence, converts your toilet into a non water saver one. I am a strong believer in water conservation but if you have to flush a toilet twice every time you are using it you aren't saving an ounce of water. 4) It is possible that the outlet of the toilet is obstructed - comb, toothbrush, kid's toy, excessive mineral buildup, etc. - and needs to be cleared with a closet auger. After you do the above steps, take a large amount of toilet paper to simulate a load (lol) and flush the toilet once. Let it refill and flush it again. If the second flush works poorly, you probably have an obstruction.

Everything listed above, including buying a cheap closet auger, shouldn't cost more than about $50 which is better than $200 plus for a new toilet installation. Good Luck!

Answer 3

I bought new low flush ones and (of course) was having the same problem. I called the factory and they eventually said that what made them low flush was that there is a plastic bowl (about the consistency of a chlorox bleach jug) that surrounds where the water drains into the bowl. It is only the water in that interior plastic bowl that flows in to do the flushing. The rest of the water in the tank never gets a chance to go into the bowl before the flush is over. They said "don't say I told you because I am not legally permitted to, but a lot of customers have taken a scissors and cut that plastic bowl open so all of the water in the tank is available for the flush." That sounds like an easy and free approach to solving your problem.

Answer 4

I have to agree with MIKE in large measure. The design of the toilet and its purpose cannot be altered. The Flush you seek is also dependant on the flow INTO the tank, and the length of time the Drain opening remains open.

With all due respect what goes down is also in correlation with whats in the bowl before flushing.

I understand conserrvation, and practice it heavily, but the added useage in a NON saver toilet is minimal above the 1.5 gal flush of the saver.

Steven Wolf

Answer 5

Your problems have nothing to do with the water saving features. If it is not filling properly, then the inside valves that control filling and shut off are not adjusted properly. Because water saving toilets use less water, they are mandated, but early models had problems clearing bowl contents. But because it uses less water, the bowl should empty quickly and the tank fill quickly. You might also check the cutoff valve on the supply line to see if it is partly shut.

Answer 6

Aren't the 1.6 gal/flush toilets required by code?

If it is an older low-flush toilet, the new ones are supposedly better and there are "high performance" models available (whether they will match the flushing power of an older water-hogging toilet, I don't know).

Answer 7

You don't. If the water saving lavatory is older style you should probably just bite the bullet and buy a new one.

Answer 8

look for a different toilelet,the old ones are much better,and by old I mean pre water saver, just ask a plumber.

Answer 9

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