Shouldn't LGBT's expect opposition?

Question

In my youth I was approached by many gay men, even once groped by one never realizing that he was a gay man until I was grown. I had a best friend and he was like a brother to me, even kissed him on the cheek but it was out of adoration and brotherly love. Tim hardaway comments are from a man that has just as much right as the gay community has, but he is getting alot of negative reaction. I know of a few gay people, but it doesnt meanI am not against that type of lifestyle. Sometimes love isnt always being in agreement, nor is it always bending just to let something take place, It can be love to stand firm, as in the disciplining of a child, or something else that you may do out of love. I love people, but to say that someone cant be outspoken about what THEY believe isnt that a double standard? Should it be expected that this lifestyle will receive oppostion as long as the human race exist?

He could have not used the world "hate" I agree that is wrong, but to say he dislikes that lifestyle isnt bad

Please lets be realistic here. We are talking about a lifestyle that clearly gives the belief that GOD created you this way, which clearly is not supported biblically.Isnt it better to say " I chose to be this way?"

Answer 1

Yes, we expect opposition. But not confusion. What are you trying to say?

Answer 2

LGBTs should EXPECT opposition, but not necessarily b/c they deserve it, but because the reality is that many people are hateful. The problem with Tim Hardaway's comments is that they were hateful. Yes he has a right to say what he wants, and people who oppose HIS narrow view have that SAME right to lambast him for it. And let's be real...there are a million and one things that people do that can be considered wrong (such as divorce which is definitely a very HETEROSEXUAL problem) yet you don't see people harping about that and there are many more divorcees than gay people. I say live and let live. These people don't deserve the social stigma that they carry, and to be honest, I don't know why anybody except their friends/relatives cares about their personal lives anyway...if they aren't doing anything to cause personal injury to others, and you don't agree with their lifestyle, just leave them alone. They deserve privacy, respect, and dignity because they are PEOPLE FIRST.
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Answer 3

Perhaps some opposition. But polite oppposition is not what Hardaway did. What he did is called bigotry and it's not acceptable, whether it's about race, appearance, sexual orientation, gender or whatever.

And no, it's not a choice. According to the American Psychiatric Association, homosexuality is not a choice, it is not an illness, it does not require treatment and it is not changeable (http://www.apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31 ).

You bible thumpers want to make to false claims that it's a choice and that sexual orientation can be changed, but the research doesn't support those claims. So don't be coming into this forum spouting that kind of nonsense.

Answer 4

It's not better to say 'I chose to be this way' because that is simply not the truth.

How can someone take the word of an out-of-date book over the experience of millions of people? I was born gay. I have always been gay. I never chose to be gay. I don't know a single person who chose to be gay.

I'm sorry this doesn't fit into your narrow slice of what you think life should be. But it's the plain old truth.

Answer 5

Dude, I see your point and appreciate your question. Political correctness may sometimes seem exaggerated and overwhelming at times, but it's purpose is to help a create a society in which people understand and behave in a mutually respectful manner.

It's not politically correct for me to publicly announce to "the nation" that I disapprove of people (based on race, sexual orientation etc. etc.)

There is no double standard. Gays (generally) do NOT state they are "against" heteros. What WE say is STOP the discrimination.

Answer 6

it's nothing to agree with or disagree with. Have your feelings about it, sure, but to say it's "right" or "wrong" is incorrect. It's a basic fact of life, it's a truth. Unless you want to get all Neitsche on us, that's all that matters. It's the way people are built. Mainly I want to say, people will change, so I think that this storm too shall pass, and probably there will allways be someone SOMEWHERE who opposes it, but why not look towards the future and be part of the chain to acceptance?

Answer 7

Lol, the man who groped you wasn't gay, he was straight. He wasn't attracted to you because you were a man, he was attracted to you because YOU WERE A CHILD. Therefore he wasn't gay, he was most likely STRAIGHT. At least 80-90% of pedophiles ARE you idiot. Look it up, you have Yahoo! Search right there!!!

And no, we don't expect opposition. Let me put it to you in a manner you'll understand.

If I called YOU NI**ER, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

Then why should I put up with hate about something I can't HELP? Could YOU choose to like men? THEN WHY WOULD I?

Answer 8

i live by a few sayings
"god is love" ( even if the god every one else believe in is not there love binds us all together)

"love has no boundaries race age gender or disability"
as love can not be broken between a child lovers or friends

"love and hate are the same thing passion "
sadly if we love some thing we tend to hate another
for either being against what we feel or do

Answer 9

Totalitarians always do away with gay people once they attain power.

Hardaway's comment are meaningless.

Hitler's pronouncements regarding Rohm, his mentor, are history.

There are no Gay people. There are no Black people. There are no Feminist people. There are no Old Dead White Men. There are only human individuals.


But, unfortunately, there ARE Useful Idiots. Don't be one of them, they are the first ones killed.

Best to you and your loved ones, that's all that matters...

Answer 10

Well, I suppose so. But my main point is that this isn't something that is to be agreed or disagreed with, it's just something that makes me who I am. I can say I don't agree with a woman's decision to have a vagina, and that I have a right to based upon the Constitution's guarantee of free speech, but that doesn't make it sound any more intelligent.

If we're being realistic, we need a little bit more evidence than "the Bible says so".

Answer 11

Why should it? There was a time when women and people of color in the US were treated abysmally (not that it is completely better now!) but things have improved. One step at a time.

I hope that we learn to judge gay people on the the strength of their individual characters rather than on their sexual preferences.