Whats your thoughts on Tim Hardaway? last time this will be asked?

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First off, let me say this...Tim Hardaway had a right to say what he said, its called Freedom of Speech. Let me also say, that i'm sure he isn't the first: person, black person, or even the first basketball player to say that he doesn't like gays. In my opinion, the media sounds like they are on the John's side. Maybe if he didn't use the word "hate" then this wouldn't have been such a big concern. Overall, there seems to be alot of people pissed because he said this. But you know what bothers me? Why did John Amaechi have to come out and say that he was gay?? Couldn't he have kept his comments to himself. What everyone is forgetting, or maybe ignoring, is that he has a BOOK in STORES NOW!! I mean, I'm not trying to blame Tim Hardaway's actions on John. But how come when a gay comes out, its a big deal? It's almost like its celebrated that they have come out. Also, when someone says they hate something, they might just be saying they disagree with the basis of it.

I firmly believe that a man shouldn’t be with a man, nor a woman with a woman. I disagree with the decisions of someone being gay just as much as I disagree with someone committing adultery or any other sins. But I won’t hate that person because of their decisions. We all need to look at the big picture here, being gay may be just as wrong as someone committing adultery(and committing adultery even means lusting over a someone when you are just looking at them). God may judge a gay person the same way he judges an adulterer(or adulteress). Also, I have seen where people have said that gay people are born gay...can someone send me a link to a reliable source that says this is 100% true. Last time I heard it hasn’t been proven yet....I would appreciate if you all could comment on what I said and maybe answer some of the questions I posed throughout, thanks

Answer 1

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Answer 2

I am not offended by Tim Hardaway's diatribe on the radio, I am deeply offended that he had to apologize because the national media and special interest groups like GLAAD coerced and intimidated him into it. He said what he said. He probably meant what he said. Dan Le Batard asked the question and he got an honest answer. Big deal. Isn't that what Americans are always saying that they want? Aren't we tired of the PC lingo that floods the airwaves? I am. Tim Hardaway expressed an opinion that is probably popular among heterosexual people all over the country. Why should he crucified for stating his opinion? Should John Amaechi be crucified for stating that he was homosexual? I would say that he is the one who started this whole mess in the first place.

When someone says that we should accept people for who there are, that means that parts they want and the parts they don't. I say that every person who offended Hardaway and his family should be made to give a public apology to him starting with Dan LeBatard.

Answer 3

My position is let Tim have his say! Maybe he expressed himself in a manner that was abrasive, however I find his position tolerable.

As a father of two sons, and a heterosexual male, I'm tired of gay people being the victim! We should never tolerate HATE on any level, but to equate this type of hate to America's, and Europe's past will never be an equal to that type of hate!!!!!!!

What's the relevance to his coming out got to do with Basketball? Have we had any gay hate crimes in the Men's National Basketball Association? This is another ploy of capitalism in effect to gain profit off drama! Tim just helped boost the profits, however it's good to see that the man & women order is still appreciated in this country somewhere even if it has to sound like Tim Hardaway!

As for God's judgements the scriptures are very clear, however what we have experienced is butchers of the scriptures miss quoting and taken the word out of context! God has not changed His position on SIN period! Even if that sin happens to be homosexulality, or murder God is still going to judge the righteous, as well as the unrighteous! This soceity is searching for peace, rather than truth!

Answer 4

I think Tim is forgetting that a good number of the folks paying money for tickets when he played were in fact, LGBT people or their relatives (like parents) or friends.

He should not ever have used the word "hate" towards anyone. His credibility hit rock bottom when he said that.

He has every right to feel uncomfortable if he knew a gay man was playing on his team. That's his prerogative. What he doesn't seem to realize that most men who are not straight and who are somehow associated with college or professional sports keep their orientation to themselves -- he might very well have insulted and hurt people very close to him over his career and he does not realize it -- including coaches, players, and referees, among others. And the biggest misconception Tim has is that gay people are the only non-straight guys out there -- I've got news for him: There's LOTS of bisexual men in college and professional sports, perhaps even some who he used to dress next to or shower with.

Tim or your agent, I hope you are reading this.

Answer 5

No matter what your beliefs are, Tim didn't say anything wrong. Like you said, it is freedom of speech. That said, he does represent the NBA and has to be accountable to them and their views as he is paid to do so.

I simply think that he chose strong language and should have toned it down a bit. Saying that he "hates" gay people is a tough pill for the NBA to swallow. He should have said "I don't believe in it".

He is absolutely right though; his comments about not wanting a gay guy in the locker room is bang on. If that is an individuals sexual preference, it's the same as having some guy in the ladies locker room.

For the record, I do not hate gay people. I think everyone is entitled to their own belief and preference, but I do strongly feel that people that are gay need to take into consideration that it makes makes a lot of people uncomfortable.

I don't care if two guys, or two girls are walking down the street holding hands, but I don't want to watch two dudes make out you know? Now two chicks...that's cool!!! LOL!

Answer 6

Political correctness in this country has gotten pretty damn riddiculous.





I just wanted to comment on the Tim Hardaway situation. First, I don't down Tim for being honest about his feelings. I think it is riddiculous that a grown man has to be ostracized for simply stating his opinion when asked.

I am a black man and Charles Barkley's notion that somehow black people should agree with the homosexual lifestyle simply because we are black is absurd. That makes us seem like mindless sheep, without complex issues of faith, sexuality, and values. Also,the notion that the "gay rights agenda" is somehow the comparable to the generations of slavery, systematic killings, and politically acceptable discrimination of African Americans is an outrage. This type of civil rights struggle piggybacking is one of the main reasons homosexuality is not tolerated within the black community. We are just one generation removed from Jim Crow and now another (predomenantly white) political/social group is now riding the coat-tails of black sacrifice and struggle saying "We've got it just as bad as you".

Furthermore, free speech should allow the man to say what ever he wants to say as long as he is not deliberatly inciting violence (which he did not).

Why don't we just admit the fact that most straight males are uncomfortable with homosexuality and that gay behavior is a contradiction to everything we know about what a man is supposed to be? Why do we back straight males, like Mr. Hardaway, into a corner forcing him to either love and embrace gay people or hate them?

Answer 7

Sigh. I honestly, truly understand that not all people agree with a homosexual lifestyle. That is fine with me, and I am not here to tell others what to think/feel/believe. I'm pretty sure there is no statement against homosexuality in the ten commandments, nor are there any statements in the seven deadly sins. For some reason though, homosexuality is perceived as being quite possibly the sin of all sins. It is mentioned in the bible, that is true, however it is really given no more importance than not eating shell fish or cutting your hair. That is what is frustrating. My "sin" is somehow crossing over into law. Where is the separation of church and state? If we are going to follow the bible so strictly then people who do feel lust or envy or wrath should also be stripped of their rights. It's a big deal when a person comes out because the religious right (and this is coming from someone who has voted republican the last 7 or so years) has made homosexuality a big deal. If I fall in love with a woman and want to spend my life with her, how will that adversely affect your life with your loved one? I don't think the right to "marry" should necessarily be given to homosexuals as far as the church goes. I don't feel it's right to mess with people religion. However, I do think I should be given the same rights as far as insurance, hospital visitation, taxes etc goes. Why should my government deny me these basic things due to what is written in the bible? To go back to my earlier argument the government should next shut down all Red Lobsters and hair salons. Can you see where I'm coming from? I don't like what Hardaway said (but I generally am a bit weary of any person pronouncing their hate for a whole group of people), but he did have a right to say it. My question for you is this: why should Amaechi have to hide who he is due to the possible negative reactions of others? You may not like this thought, but by taking the step to open up about his true self he probably helped so many young people who are questioning who they are and if they're normal. He paved the way for them to know that it's just part of who they are and nothing to be ashamed of. Lastly, I can't even begin to describe to you how frustrating the birth/choice issue is. Short of taking a polygraph (which I'd be happy to do), I will never be able to convince a person against homosexuality that I have ALWAYS felt the way I do towards females. I have never in my life had any interest in males. I don't hate them by any means, and two of my best friends in the world are men, but I will never fall in love with one like I have with women. On top of the lack of rights, and the negative feelings I have to deal with from others due to my orientation, I also have the joy of being called a liar. Why would I say I have always felt this way if it wasn't true? My life would be so much easier if I liked men, and I tried so hard to get myself to up until just the last year or two. It's who I am, like it or not. That is so frustrating, as a person who values honesty, to be called a liar by people who will never understand how I feel. I don't see why I should have to offer proof of my feelings for the benefit of others who are against who I am in the first place. Tim Hardaway didn't say he hated homosexuality, he said he hated gay people. Imagine being hated over something so insignificant in the scheme of things. How would that make you feel? Anyway, I hope I've helped answer your question.

Answer 8

Remember when it was a big deal when Clinton was President and Gays fought to be in the military?
The answer ended up being that they could indeed be in the military as long as they didn't disclose that they were....isn't that what it was?
The Don't Ask Don't Tell policy?

Why do people have to flaunt their sexual preferences anyways?
What you do in your bedroom should stay there and alot of these problems wouldn't be problems......
If I walk past someone in the mall and they're gay, I don't know for sure what their preferences are and I don't need to know, and really don't care, either.
I don't need to know that sports figures or actors/actresses are gay....seems to me when someone brings up the fact that they are gay, their popularity goes down......
Rosie O'Donell was pretty popular until she disclosed the fact that she was, same with Ricky Lake, alot of political figures resign and leave in embarassment when it's realized by the general public that they are gay....no one really wants to know that someone's gay.
The reason it offends alot of people?
The majority of people are straight and don't need or want to know.
This is something that should be kept to oneself and not used to promote themself and their sexual preferences.

Answer 9

always been a big fan of getting everything out on the table.. sure, he's an *** and deserves every bit of grief he's received.... but it's a great way to get the dialog rolling, and see where everyone stands... the sports world is coming along right along with everyone else....

Answer 10

hi there take my word for it you are born that way.