The free nations of the world once had opportunity to address the insidious rise of the Nazi ideology in its formative years when it could have been dispatched without great cost. But they delayed, and the result was atomic bombs falling on cities, 50 million people dead worldwide, and the swastika's shadow nearly plunging this planet into Cimmerian night.
Winston Churchill's words of warning far preceded such tragic events. He said, ``If you will not fight when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse moment. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory because it is still better to perish than to live as slaves.''
If so-called enlightened Germans fell prey to the Nazi ideology, why do we not believe Third World Muslims can also fall prey in large numbers to this jihadist ideology? History does indeed repeat itself and each time the price goes up.
Jihadists believe they have a critical advantage over free people in the world. They believe their will is far stronger than ours and that they need only to persevere to break our resolve. We need to ask ourselves first, not whether the Nation should have gone to war but whether the Nation should lose this war .
Will jihadists break the will of the world's free people or not? Will they be able to hide long enough to gain access to nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction? If we do allow nations like Iran to gain nuclear weapons, what will we tell our children when they face nuclear jihad, perhaps even in this generation? If liberals are willing to see freedom defeated in Iraq , are they willing to take responsibility for what will almost certainly follow? If this entire Nation was riveted and heartbroken when two airplanes hit two buildings in New York, how will we feel when an entire American city is in nuclear flames?
If Speaker Pelosi and other Democrats are willing to vote against monitoring terrorist conversations on the telephone, or tracking their financial transactions, or protecting our border from terrorist insurgency, or effectively interrogating terrorists in custody, or sending reinforcements to our troops on the battlefield, then the question that cries for an answer is what are they willing to do to defeat Islamic terrorism? What is their plan?
2007-02-15
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The problem lies primarily with Liberals. They seem perfectly content never to learn from experience. They live in some naive La La Land where we can hold hands with the Muslim extremists while Jane Fonda cooks them brownies (wear a full burka Jane, your exposed calves are an abomination to Allah!).
Liberals don't have a plan. I really believe that, on some level, they realize there will always be enough sensible Republicans to allow them to continue living irresponsibly. It's as if the Republican is the hard working parent, while the Liberals is the dope smoking High School dropout who has been living in his parents' basement for the last ten years, watching sitcoms and trying to score some pot.
How can Liberals have a plan to defeat terrorism when so many of them even deny the problem exists? Have you read some of the posts here?
The Liberals will inevitably shoot for the lazy way out: accomodation. It's like delaying the inevitable; waiting to pay your taxes until 11pm April 14th. This is the route Bill Clinton took with the issue of North Korea trying to get nukes. He just signed an agreement with them, which gave them the time they needed to pursue their research.
Here's what the wise Ronald Reagan had to say about accomodation with the enemy:
"Accommodation is based on wishing not thinking, and if the wish doesn't come true the enemy is far stronger than he was before you started down that road.
The other way is based on the belief (supported so far by all evidence) that in an all out race our system is stronger, and eventually the enemy gives up the race as a hopeless cause. Then a noble nation believing in peace extends the hand of friendship and says there is room in the world for both of us. We can make those rockets into bridge lamps by being so strong the enemy has no choice, or we can bet our lives and freedom on the ******** theory that if we make him strong enough he'll learn to love us."
The answer to your question is not just shockingly simple, but tragically so: the Liberals do not have a plan to defeat Islamic terrorism. They will just jump from one "feel good" plan to the next.
2007-02-15 10:35:43
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answered by pachl@sbcglobal.net 7
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Pelosi and Her crew have got their noses so far up the Anti War activists buttcheeks that their main concern is not what is best for this Nation but what will advance their Careers.
The real danger here is that these self serving Politicians are recieving marching orders from the likes of Jane Fonda and Michael Moore. Folks who think America deserved 9-11 and deserve even worse, yet also hypocritically enjoy living here in the land they hate so much.
These are the same folks who want to turn our security over to the United Nations, as if France gives a damn about our safety.
Do these Politicians actually believe they would retain their powerful positions if one day America comes under Muslim Authority? Can they really be that stupid?
2007-02-15 10:18:53
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answered by Anonymous
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You can't win a War on Terror without allies.
This is no one's fault but Bush's. He is the decider. He decided to invade a secularized country that had nothing to do with Islamic extremism. He decided to invade the country using "alternative" intelligence. He decided to make the reconstruction contracts windfalls for American companies at the expense of maybe having more allies because they'd be able to get a chunk of the pie too. He decided to keep on moving forward when troops encountered "pockets of resistance" from the people we now call insurgents. He decided to pack up from Afghanistan and set up shop in Iraq.
These are all his decisions.
You tell me what plan the Republicans have that is viable and that can help make the U.S. safe again. They have no plan. That's because there is no plan. There is no plan that will fix things. There is no plan that the American public can support. Our options are leaving Iraq bad and leaving Iraq worse. That is the truth. You can try to pin the blame all you like on the Democrats, but the truth is there is only one decider and his name is George W. Bush.
So answer these two questions for yourself.
How can we fight a War on Terror all on our own (I mean could Britain have defeated the Nazis if we didn't step in with our men and our bomb)?
What is the plan that Republicans have that will fix this situation?
2007-02-15 10:42:38
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answered by Mrs. Bass 7
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One of the many differences between Muslim terrorists and Nazi soldiers is that when Allied troops walked through Berlin, the war was basically over. What capital in the Middle East needs to have US boots walk through it for the so-called "War on Terror" to be over?
How does sending 21,500 troops make a difference in policing a country of close to 30 million?
Even if the violence does abide in Iraqi, which I hope it does, how does a Shia dominated Iraqi operating under strict Islamic law help us?
How does torturing people, some of whom we only think are terrorists, supposed to win hearts and minds among the world's 1 billion Muslims...not to mention the millions we already have in this country, most of whom in both categories, are not terrorists?
How can we forever and completely stop Iran from building a bomb through military action? We bomb, and assuming we get all of the sites, they just start again. Then we have a nation three times the size of Iraq with twice the population, (a population largely under 30 who currently like us), screaming for our blood. Forget about possible terrorist attacks world-wide, how about $10 a gallon gas when they shut close to half of the oil coming out of the Gulf?
Some quote Churchill. I like him too. Maybe we should have all listened to him before we invaded Iraq, which he called the "ungrateful volcano". But he slept on world danger too you know. He thought the Empire of Japan was little threat and many British citizens in Singapore paid with their lives and bodies.
And why do people like me who served their country in uniform have to have their patriotism questioned by those who did not?
2007-02-15 10:47:50
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answered by Raindog 3
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I wonder how long it will be before somebody compares george bush and americas quest for world domination with Hitler and the Nazis.........the atrocities committed upon Iraqi prisoners by american soldiers get worse every day......and what is happening to the freaks that perpetrate these crimes?? Promotions??
I think that america had better be careful that people dont start calling americans terrorists and bush a menace that needs to be removed by force.
Does the rest of the world have time to sit by and watch impotently as america invades the world one country at a time?
Isnt it time americans recognized that they are victims of terrorism committed by their own government......politics of fear....make them afraid of everybody....then they will go along with invading everybody.
If people said the German people were brainwashed by Hitler.....I think it could be equally said the american people have been brainwashed by bush.
Conditioned to believe everyone who is not white and born on us soil is a threat. The american people seem to believe in the idea that they have the right to be the dictators of the world....and with bush doing the dictation.......the stretch to compare with Hitler is not a hard one.
Hasnt the fight already been bloody and costly and what have you gained??? Do you feel safer? Do you feel more secure knowing that your sons and daughters are murdering innocent sons and daughters abroad? It seems to me if anyone is living as slaves.....well I guess america has gone back to her roots.
Also.......might want to do a little historical research there good buddy......america has been selling wmds to iran and other countries for quite a few decades now. Guess maybe you guys think you shouldnt have done that and now you want them back huh??
2007-02-15 15:20:59
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answered by Mickers 2
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Libs are going to get us all killed! As a 9/11 survivor, I wish this world would be a hell of a lot more proactive against rogue regimes and terrorist groups.
The EU FINALLY admitted that Iran was going to have a nuke no matter what. What the hell too them so long to figure that one out? I am sick of everyone tip-toeing around these countries that are going to do serious, serious harm to us.
How can you diplomatically approach this subject when these people live and die by what the Koran supposedly says? This is beyond political beliefs, it is their religion! No amount of negotiations will ever supercede their religious beliefs that the West must submit to Allah or perish!
Dems claim that there is still a chance at negotiations. How do you figure that?!?! It takes one nuke to murder millions. They don't have a delivery system? They are called terrorists that would be happy and honored to die to kill off the infidels. They just get Allah's blessing and 72 virgins - not a bad deal!
Stop the nonsense, Libs! Let's get real and stop the problem before it gets worse! And trust me, it will get worse.
2007-02-15 10:23:56
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answered by TheAnswerChicks 4
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History is repeating itself: George Bush is starting to make the case for war in Iran, but this time, the Senate will not trust him to use force as a last resort.
As for the rest of your right wing pablum, you overestimate the capabilities of "the terrorists." You can't scare the country into believing your horses**t this time.
2007-02-15 10:29:01
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answered by Schmorgen 6
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again... mass propaganda and assumptions... using only emotional pleas and no facts...
you guys say the liberals are emotional... that's all you have in this whole little list you made... there is hardly one fact, but tons of assumptions... espeically what the dems have been doing... most of which that I have seen was just wanting some oversight on the monitoring of phone conversations and tracking financial records...
why does Bush persist in refusing oversight... what is he trying to hide? if he's just listening to terrorists, then we're fine with that...
and Republicans have no plan, that much is clear... Bush's "plan" was to invade the LEAST TERRORIST ORIENTED MOST SECULAR NATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST to defeat Islamic terrorism? Is that your plan?
all you can muster is "they are nazis and they will kill us all"... and you can't even prove it...
the man that committed 9-11 IS STILL OUT THERE? YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RESOLVE TO GET JUSTICE FOR 3,000 DEAD AMERICANS AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMS?
2007-02-15 10:23:43
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answered by Anonymous
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Great point.
And of course, liberals won't take credit for what happens if the jihadists win. They will just whine and cry like they always do.
Why do the liberals aid the terrorists and want the terrorists to succeed?
2007-02-15 10:16:00
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answered by infobrokernate 6
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you are right all the way . when the liberals step up with their so called plan the enemy will be waitng and we will all pay for their ignorance. the only thing that counts to them is that they win in 2008.
2007-02-15 10:30:29
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answered by gingerbell 2
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