Is this what must be understood about Islam?

Question

The difference between meccan and medinan verses. One set of verses was written when muhammed was a minority, and lo and behold its filled with great stuff like respecting everyone and no compulsion in islam. then, when he was strong enough to take mecca forcefully, his verses started changing. instead of living peacefully and stuff, it turned to killing infidels and spreading the faith by the sword. since he has the power to force islam on people, he wasnt content to just tolerate others (IE the Jews of Khaybar who were visciously slaughtered and the women and children brought under slavery).
We can see this same pattern today. when muslims are a minority in a country, they talk about peace and tolerance (like america for the most part). but then, once a military power or numerical majority has been established (sudan, saudi), they start talking about killing the infidel. its a very well established pattern.

Some like to point out that "well the bible says to kill people too!"

forget that while it may say so in certain situations in the old testmament, Jesus Christ (the founder of christianity) never advocated or participated in killing. on the contrary, muhammed, the founder of Islam, did advocate killing infidels, and participated in it personally. all of those old testament quotes of violence could be attributed to Judaism, not christianity, since the New testament, or new covenant, fulfills and nulls the regulations of the old testament. in the same way that the violent meccan verses of the quran, nulled and voided the peace- loving medinan verses of the quran

I don't think its funny at all, but yes, it does sound like the takeover of the Americas.

Answer 1

Actually, most of the teachings we hear to day were not written by Muhammad. there is confusion because the later teachings which are written separately are written "in the name of the prophet" but were written by separate people later. The only writings from Muhammad are in the Koran, which are the peaceful ones.

it's a similar situation to Christianity really. there is the peaceful scripture but the radical preachers who twist it to support what they want. Unfortunately, Islam wound up with the perversions recorded as scripture because they lack a more central authority, it's all decentralized...

then you get into power struggles early on and the splits... it's a mess. however, it's not unique in that. Most looking in on Christianity have difficulty understanding the splits and such too.

Answer 2

According to historians and religion experts, Mohamed was most conciliatory while he was weak. Once he gained some followers and became stronger he showed his real nature. The old peaceful verses were abrogated by the latter ones who preached Islamic dominance throughout the world. I have also read in the Koran that it is okay even recommended for them to offer truces with the enemy if they are likely to lose the battle. The Important thing in the long run is that Islam prevail the world over.

Answer 3

On the contrary, these so called "violent" "by-the-sword" verses were written in a period, while, though the Hijrah was already complete, the Muslims were living in an against-all-odds sort of situation. The Quraysh (meccans) continued to attack the Muslims in Medina. And these "violent" verses you speak of, are concerned with the defense of Medina against the Muslims. "And slay them the idolaters where ye find them..." refers specifically to these meccans, because the word "Hypocrite" is used, instead of "Al-Kafirun" (unbeliever). The "Infidel" which you speak of, were the Meccans, once they were down, Muhammad lived in peace with the members of all other religions. The Jews of Khaybar were of course an exception, their violent backstab into the Muslim society while they were under attack by the Quraysh was responded to in kind.

Answer 4

Its silly to believe that muslims across cultures and across ages behave in a similar fashion. It just so happens that at present there is a lot of unrest in the middle east which is predominantly muslim. The verses of the quran can be interpreted in a lot of ways, as can the verses from other relegious books. In Bhagwad Gita krishna talks about brothers fighting brothers when appropriate, now does that mean that hindus across the world at the slightest provocation would start fighting their families. I don't think there is any established pattern in the way a certain relegion reacts or behaves. There are a multitude of factors that affect people and based on their own perception and experiences people behave in a certain way.

Answer 5

Sounds like the European take over of the Americas. Isn't that funny. Interesting that you try to paint a racist view of 1.5 billion people from a variety of countries world wide.

Muslims didn't invade Great Britain, or France. It was the other way around. The "infidels" invaded their continent, so the Arabs rallied together to fight for their land. Wouldn't you?

I guess only Americans have the right to defend their country against an invading army such as the French Foreign Legion or the United Kingdom.

Then there is India following the British invasion there as well. The British Empire left ruined countries in their wake including Iraq. The Brits "created" Iraq by drawing the artificial boundary around three different tribal lands near the turn of the twentieth century.

So please study your history.

Answer 6

the conventional maximum resources of ISLAM are a million)Qur'an and 2)Hadith(The putting forward of Prophet(peace be upon him)) yeah you want to learn Arabic to study Qu'ran . ISLAM would not be counted upon technological know-how. you may learn technological know-how as a topic to save your self knowledgeable of cutting-edge subject matters yet now to not understand Islam.

Answer 7

One of the things I find interesting about Muhammed was that when he was initially ran out of Mecca (615ad Hijra to Ethiopia) he fled down to Ethiopia and the Ethiopians gave him refuge...
They even protected him and his followers from the Quraish who pursued him from Mecca....yea the Ethiopians .. who are just about the last majority christian group in the area.

Answer 8

Go Back to Religion & Spirtualty Many people hate religion on this website

Answer 9

ITA.

it's only a matter of time til they start thinking they can pull that crap here. and it will get ugly, real fast. can you imagine you and your neighbors sitting in the house while a bunch of Muslims outside firebomb every car in sight? cause this is what they've been doing in France. i myself picture plenty of Muslims getting shot this way. they're gonna have to change their technique for us. we're not Europe. (yet)

Answer 10

chritians, jews ,they were not told to kill even after gaining power and majority and see have they ever killed any body? had they ever been unreasonable ?.
Have people heard about world war
has any body even heard of holocaust
do people know about the miseries of the innocent people of afhganistan, palsatine,chachenya, iraq etc
i mean what peolpe r trying to proove just tell me was is not bush's religious dutiy to save people of afghanistan and iraq from thier tyrant rulers
had ever bush bush inter feres in others business
if he would found any other country rich in natural resources or oil he bush will reach there in order to act accorrging to bible's teaching
for God sake bush is only doing his religious duty