Should disruptive pupils be kicked out of school?

Question

As a student myself in my final year of studying for GCSE's and with exams looming, i hate it so much when other pupils in the class are continuously disruptive and are not punished - why shuld I (and the other pupils who wish to learn) have our education damaged due to others? Surely schools should take it upon themselves to make sure everybody is working in a good environment, and I believe that this can be achieved by removing pupils who are not prepared to learn - do you agree?

Answer 1

I couldn't agree more! In my experience as a teacher in a state comprehensive school in the UK, I found in recent years that nearly every class contained one or more disruptive pupils. It may not have been their fault - many were victims of the governments disastrous 'inclusion' policy, which deprived many children with special needs of the education they needed, and damaged the education of so many others. I don't think they should be 'kicked out', but placed in the right sort of establishment for their needs.

Answer 2

Yes I do agree to an extent.
Its very unfair someone should be able to disrupt 25+ other people and prevent them from learning in a comfortable environment. It affects everyone elses education, and thats not right.
I think bad or unwanted behaviour should have consequeces for the disruptive individuals - but I think there maybe other issues needing to be explored regarding those individuals. They obviously have issues/problems which make them disrupt the class in this way - they may need 1-to-1 teaching as most children who are disruptive simply dont understand the lesson and get bored. They are struggling and need help.
There could also be other personal issues as to why these children crave the attention they get from being disruptive... perhaps an unhappy home life. All these things should be taken into account and the individual offered the help they clearly need, which in turn would bring the calm back into the classroom.

This is difficult, as teachers are very limited with what action they can take. I think most are affraid to tackle these issues because of the personal implications which may arise. They could be accused of singling out and 'picking' on the disruptive child. Their parents may complain, or even sue the teacher!
The education system seems ridiculous, as the schools dont really have the power to apply an effective disciplinary proceedure. Most of proceedures would rely on parents backing them up - and unfortunately it seems the disruptive children often have parents who dont really care much and are unwilling to help the school tackle the problems with their child. They'd sooner place blame onto the school and have a go at the teachers.

I think the government need to put more funding into schools so they have more teachers who can work with 'problem children' on a one-to-one basis and perhaps take all the disruptive children to another class where the only people they will be disrupting are themselves and eachother. I believe however with the extra support these children will be able to have a better education and understand all their lessons better, and therefore won't be as likely to disrupt the class. Afew months of one-to-one and they would probably work as well as all the other pupils.

Answer 3

Yes i do. Fortunately when I was at high school, most of the duds either left or failed before I got to final year. Unfortunately this hasn't happened in your case. If they are disruptive, they obviously don't belong in school, and should be doing something else that does not involve a school. In University, one of the most effective methods of dealing with disruptive students was for the lecturer to threaten to walk out if the students didnt behave. Because students are paying to be there, class pressure would then fix the problem very quickly. Best thing you can do is to sit near the front of the class. Good luck with your exams.

Answer 4

You have a right to learn. If those idiots are interferring with your learning, then you could start by talking to your teacher. If that doesn't work, go up the chain of command.

The problem now is that the students who are disruptive have a right to learn also (even though instead of learning, they are ruining it for everyone else). Some parents are in denial or can't/won't get involved. I have a student right now who is disruptive. He comes into class, won't sit in his assigned seat, won't do his work, makes inappropriate sexual comments, and tries to throw things in class. He is failing my class, and in all likelihood won't graduate. I suspended him from extra-curricular activities, and his parents called my supervisor, because they thought I was the bad guy.

Going to a private school won't help. Some of the wealthest children who haven't had to work a day in their lives and get everything they could ever want and more attend there. Some are worse than the public school kids!

There are many students who attend my school and make my job great. They have completed their homework, eaten breakfast, are properly dressed for the weather, have basic school supplies, work hard, and are ready to learn. That is why I get up in the morning!

Answer 5

This is a difficult subject. Teachers have virtually no powers anymore to stop children misbehaving in class. If they do, they are accused of all sorts of nonsense. How then can they discipline the children yet keep that at school. I think it is best to try to keep them in school becuase if they get kicked out what then? Probably a life of crime, petty or otherwise. Unfortunately, there is so little the teachers can do.

Good for you though for sticking with it. My husband went to a really rough school where only a handful of kids went on to tertiary education & he stuck with it & now has a great job with a fantastic salary. I wish the same for you.

Answer 6

Yes, Children and tennagers should all have the choice to choose what is right and what is wrong. Schools are there for kids to want to learn and do good things with their lives. People that are bad and choose to do the worng things should be kicked out becuase whats the point of wasting time on people who dont want to do anything and bull.. people will argue and say that its not right but it will be thier own fault along with an undecent upbrining. They will look back at their lives and think......"what the hell did i do that for???" and then maybe in future generations kids might more priductive and actually want to larn becuase of the outcome and pride they see in their parents. Which will theng ive them a boost to learn in school.

Answer 7

i reckon the parents r 2 blame 4 a start as they probably dont pay attention to these kids so these kids play up evry where 4 attention whether negative or not.instead of removing them from the school i reckon they shud move them into another classroom 4 disruptive children only. where a teacher wud teach them respect and how to respect othas. they shud encourage them and give them praise if they start to act normal. they shud also be strict with them. while in the normal classroom people like urself are actually able 2 study without the disruption.

Answer 8

In this day and age with the huge class sizes and the teachers lack of rights to clip morons around the ear, disruptive kids should not be allowed to stay in the classroom. It's hard enough learning as it is when you have to share the teacher's attention with 30 other kids, without that teacher spending 30% of their time telling some ignorant child to behave. I think this is most important from 13 to 16 though. If kids cannot behave in class by the age of 13, then they have problems somewhere along the line and should be dealt with separately where more attention can be paid to them. This would benefit both sets of kids.

Answer 9

This is a valid point and refreshing to hear it from someone who is actually affected by the problem! The do gooders think it would be unfair on the disruptive ones to deny them of an education but I think we should be more concerned about those who want to try their best. Hopefully they all leave after GCSEs so your classes will be more peaceful next year.

Good luck!

Answer 10

For some reason, certain children/youth feel they are not answerable to anyone for their actions. Sadly this attitude is often backed up by their parents. Within a classroom setting a teacher needs to teach, children /youth need to learn. This does seem to indicate that we need structure within the classroom setting. If there are behavioral problems, students who are trying to accomplish all they can, as well as those who struggle to keep up and who do need the extra assistance have to wait while teacher disciplines unruly students. These students choose to ruin their own education, they do not have the right to ruin the education of others. Expel them. Without a second thought.