Abortion is immoral?

Question

Pro choicer’s have made the case that because it’s legal, it’s not wrong to do so. That's great. I think I'll go cheat on my girlfriend now. It's legal, correct? So that makes it right? you're confusing legality with morality. There are lots of things that are legal that aren't really moral. It's perfectly legal for corporate america to ship your job overseas to save money on labor, but does that make it right? It was perfectly legal for the oil industry to continue to raise oil prices while also reaping record profits, but I bet you were one of those that screamed bloody murder and claimed a lack of ethics and moral sensibility was being practiced (all the while you went and filled up at the nearest gas station). It is immoral of business owners to legally oppose the rasing of minimum wage. And yet, it's moral for you to go ahead and kill human life because the Courts said it was legal. That's an interesting contradiction. It's even more interesting that science says biological life begins during prophase, the initial stage of mitosis. But the kicker is how the pro choicers scream that the pro lifers base their definition of life on their faith. Yet, many pro lifers cite the scientific argument of mitosis, just as I have. Pro choicers say that life begins at birth. Based on what? Faith? It certainly isn't science. Look, I'm not here to argue if you do or don't have the legal right to have an abortion. The Courts have ruled that you do. What I'm saying is that you don't have the moral right to do so, just as I don't have the moral authority to cheat on my girlfriend. To believe otherwise is only placating your own state of moral unconsciousness.

ZH-I'm actually a Democrat. I think Bush is a huge failure.

Answer 1

1) The basis of the pro choice movement is that it is moral to abort and therefore it is legal to abort. On the other hand it is immoral to be pro life and yet it is still legal. I think you should count your blessings that society allows you to be pro life without putting you in jail.
2) You cannot compare the lowering or raising of the minimum wage without also discussing the raising or lowering of the price of food due to increases or decreases in the minimum wage. Raising wages causes prices to raise. Your selfish answer is to give you more money and screw the poor.
3) There is no killing of human life in abortion. There is no human life in a fetus, if you belive otherwise, talk to your fetus, if it answers, I will concede your point. Otherwise, it is simply your fantasy. If you wish to avoid abortion and make a fool out of yourself, that is fine with me. But don't expect me to believe in your fantasy and live my life by what you simply believe and cannot prove. Your falsehoods lead to the death of millions of people already walking and talking on this earth. Millions die evey year in undeveloped nations due to the actions of people like you. If you cared anything about life, you would spend your resources and time helping those already born, including the 2 million babies that die after birth each year. Your field of vision is limited by your low IQ and lack of respect for those who are already alive.
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You speak of your morals--- you have no morals. If you love your girlfriend, you will tell her of the millions of dying children that are already born. You will tell her of the importance of raising children that are loved and wanted. And you will advise her that God gave her a brain to determine whether or not to give birth to a child. Science should be about saving the most children, not about picking and choosing based on an unfounded and illogical concept such as the pro life movement. You are no better than a con man.

Answer 2

I first have to say that I am 50 years old. When I was young abortions were sometimes performed in back alley clinics and the like. But the reports were that there were only 500- 1000, per year. The real truth will never be known. That being said. The promoters of Abortion argued that due to rape and incest, abortions should be made legal. They argued that women who were victims of these crimes should have a way out. There were also constant mentionings of women who could lose their lives during an abortion. Shortly after abortion was made legal, the numbers started to skyrocket. I know of girls in the late 70's and 80's that had 4-6 abortions and started using abortion as contraception. Its really easy for anyone to look at an abortion and either film or pictures and realize that its a human body being torn to pieces. You can catch things on health channels like penile implants, breast implants, sex change reconstruction, but will never see an abortion. The truth is ugly and to actually see one will stop a persons breathing for a moment. Abortion is convienent, not morally right. That little human should have rights. If someone kills a pregnant mother, they can be charged with the death of the mother and baby, but if a woman says this is not a good time for me, she can have the babies head crushed and the infants body sucked out with a vacuum and the deeds over. Keep in mind that there are an average of 5,000 aboutions each day in the USA. at $500-$600 each, and the babys body (fetal tissue they call it) can then be resold to labratories. The abortion industry is a huge money train. If in the 70's when abortion became legal anyone would have known the extent and amount of abortions to be conducted, it would never have passed. Just some facts.

Answer 3

I don't want to get too dragged into this argument. But I'd like to point out that you're assuming morals are absolute, or that they actually exist beyond individual people which is unture.

And so we begin. Let's keep it civil.

The pro-choice argument isn't about where "life begins". And neither is the "pro-life" argument, but I won't get into that.
Think about the term "pro-choice". Choice. It's the woman's body, thus it is her right to make choices that affect her body. For some reasons some folks think that once she gets pregnant, her rights are suspended. (So it's all about ownership of the womb, right?)
I have a problem with is men commenting on a procedure that could never happen to them. Ever, unless they got a uterus transplant (in which case they wouldn't be looking for an abortion by any means). As a man, you will never find yourself with an unwanted pregnancy. How can you understand the very real situation of a woman when all you have is a hypothetical situation?

For some reason a hollow cell mass has more right to my body than I do. To sit there and give me pain and suck my nutrients. No thank you. Nevermind that breeding in this day and age is selfish and irresponsible. A hollow cell mass is not the equivalent of a "human life". And interesting that people who are against abortion are for the war, the death penalty, and so on. What happened to pro life? All the "life" stuff is rhetoric and hipocrisy.

The question here is, do you trust women? Do you trust women to make their own reproductive choices? This has always been, and always will be about ownership over women's bodies. And it can't be denied that it's a woman's issue. 100%. I love how an MP here in canada said "old white men need to stay out of women's affairs".

So here, again, you're assuming that right and wrong exist. Not true. Anything accepted by 66% or more of the population is consitered right.

What we need to remember is to allow people autonomy in their personal lives. You can go cheat on your girlfriend, that's your decision. It's better you do so, so your girlfriend wouldn't have to put up with someone who would becuase the fact would be out in the open.

Honestly, stop assuming that right and wrong exist. They don't.

Answer 4

I get your stance on the subject, but not what your question is. I personally think it is immoral to require a child be born when it is known he will have severe handicaps which will limit his life to a few years of misery. or to require a young girl who's been raped to see the pregnancy to term...I also cannot understand if we are so concerned in this country about abortion, why we are also not equally concerned with reforming adoption laws, about doing something to provide for the children that would result from a banning of abortions, etc. There are many, many children in this country living in foster care who have no permanent home to provide them with love and a sense of security, and we are talking about adding at least another 500,00- to that mix annually, while all the while cuting social service programs, education, health care for the poor, etc. If Roe v Wade is overturned, you need to understand we must as a society come up with a humane way of providing fro these citizens, and stop begrudging those on welfare, etc, as at least they've made the choice for life that so many have not. Amd if you are pro-life, and have not adopted any unwanted children or acted as a foster parent, maybe you should just call yourself anti-abortion, and stop the charade of saying you're pro-life.

Answer 5

I'm not for abortion. I think it's wrong, but it needs to stay legal. I worry about the safety of women if it became illegal. If a woman wants an abortion she'll get one whether it's legal or not and most likely it will be unsafe. Instead of complaining about abortion why not try to find ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place?

Answer 6

The question I would put to you is this...
If GWB is the crusader and man of God hes portrayed as why hasnt he saved a single baby from being aborted. Abortion in this country hasnt changed in decades. all the debate leads to no changes. I believe abortion in this country will become simply a question of how you raise your children. But politically it makes no difference and acting like you can get or lose votes based on the issue of abortion is not true. Prolife and prochoice when in power do not affect abortion in this country and both have had their turns.

Answer 7

It is a personal election, so it is up to the concerned woman to decide whether is moral or not. When my wife and I had our children, we never considered abortion as an option, so we decided not to take some of the tests a pregnant woman may take to find birth defects. But of course I would not ever impose my personal values and choices to anybody.

Answer 8

You have the "moral" right to do what you need to do to stay alive. Any fetus is a threat to the live of the female host. If a female chooses not to risk her life bringing the embryo to term, it's a very moral decision.

Answer 9

So is war

Answer 10

THATS UP TO A WOMAN TO DECIDE NOT YOU! ! THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO REQUEST ABORTION. ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS !