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Pro lifer’s have made the case that because it’s legal, it’s not wrong to do so. That's great. I think I'll go cheat on my girlfriend now. It's legal, correct? So that makes it right? you're confusing legality with morality. There are lots of things that are legal that aren't really moral. It's perfectly legal for corporate america to ship your job overseas to save money on labor, but does that make it right? It was perfectly legal for the oil industry to continue to raise oil prices while also reaping record profits, but I bet you were one of those that screamed bloody murder and claimed a lack of ethics and moral sensibility was being practiced (all the while you went and filled up at the nearest gas station). It is immoral of business owners to legally oppose the rasing of minimum wage. And yet, it's moral for you to go ahead and kill human life because the Courts said it was legal. That's an interesting contradiction. It's even more interesting that science says biological life begins during prophase, the initial stage of mitosis. But the kicker is how the pro choicers scream that the pro lifers base their definition of life on their faith. Yet, many pro lifers cite the scientific argument of mitosis, just as I have. Pro choicers say that life begins at birth. Based on what? Faith? It certainly isn't science. Look, I'm not here to argue if you do or don't have the legal right to have an abortion. The Courts have ruled that you do. What I'm saying is that you don't have the moral right to do so, just as I don't have the moral authority to cheat on my girlfriend. To believe otherwise is only placating your own state of moral unconsciousness.

2007-02-12 10:26:45 · 14 answers · asked by Dark Helmet 2 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

yeah the beginning should read pro choicers

2007-02-12 10:31:30 · update #1

14 answers

Your question is great, and a lot of these answers are really good, so I would just like to add one important point in response to some of the answers you have gotten:

Don't EVER let a woman (or a guy ilke the one who answered here) tell you that just because you're a man, you have no right to voice your opinion about abortion. That's JUST like saying that if you don't "understand" someone's unique perspective completely, you aren't capable of determining that what they did was unethical. That's just stupid, and extremely flawed logic.

No, I've never been pregnant or raped. I don't "know what it's like." But I know abortion is wrong, just like I know any other murder is wrong. I really, truly don't need to see it from the murderer's perspective to know that the person who was murdered deserved a chance at life. If abortion is taking a life, or even MAYBE taking a life, then where is the argument that it's okay?

I recently heard a story from a man who lost his child due to an abortion. He had been unaware of the pregnancy, and he still grieves for that child, just the way a father or mother would grieve in the case of a miscarriage.

Every human being has a right AND responsibility to defend their fellow human beings. Don't ever let anyone tell you you can't do everything in your power to protect the unborn simply because you're a man. You have just as much right as anyone, male or female, to speak your mind. And you do it very well, so don't stop!

2007-02-12 14:20:37 · answer #1 · answered by of 2 · 1 0

I believe in the quality of life, not the quantity of life and I also don't believe that one person has the right to inflict their beliefs or morals on another person. For the most part, I am pro-choice. As long as a woman has an abortion in the first three months, I have no problem with it. Now if a woman waits later than that to get an abortion, I find it to be a little sick (whole different procedure) and I wonder why she waited so long to have it done. The only circumstances that I feel that a woman should have a abortion after the first trimester is if her health or life is in danger or if the baby will be born with some sort of serious physical or mental defect. Those are just my beliefs but I would never try to force them on to someone else.

2016-05-24 02:31:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You make some very good points. People should also remember that slavery was once legal in this country, too. The Supreme Court said that blacks were not "persons" under the law. They were wrong then. They are wrong now. See:

A Comparison of Abortion and Other Historical Genocides:
http://www.blackgenocide.org/abortion.html

When Does Life Begin?
http://abort73.com/HTML/I-A-1-medical.html

Photos and Video of Abortions, Including 1st Trimester Abortions:
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-4-video.html
http://www.cbrinfo.org/Resources/pictures.html

Photos and Facts About Prenatal Development:
http://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp
http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-2-prenatal.html
http://www.studentsforlife.uct.ac.za/foetal%20dev%20photos.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm

Pain Perception in the Unborn:
http://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html

2007-02-12 14:26:43 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

no it is not moral.
it is not something i could ever do.
before anyone comes down on those who choose this
please think twice or even several times. the things that
are done to some women that become pregnant are often
not in any way moral.
in other cases the woman involved is of such a turn that she
would not give the child up for adoption and then would not
care for it. which is the most immoral? aborting the child
or having it and then abusing it?

2007-02-12 10:43:19 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I am pro-life all the way, I even do not agree with the death penalty. We as humans have no right to say when someone else's life shoudl end. Abortion is disgusting and onyl shows how immoral and irresponsible our society has become. I am no angel, but I would never murder.

2007-02-12 10:49:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Wow, excellent!

Well said and true.

It is a moral issue but some seem to push morals aside for their so called "rights". Completely dismissing these tiny human beings rights.

It doesn't bother me when they call me pro-lifers, but I call them as I see it "pro-deathers" and boy, they don't like it. The truth hurts too much so they cannot and will not look at it that way.

So the pro-deathers have their morality issues out of their minds and their so called rights in the front line. Talk about backwards.

2007-02-12 10:35:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Your example cited at the opening of your question is a valiant attempt but misses the mark.

Abortion is not a moral issue unless you are Christian or some other restrictive religion. Regardless of my faith or lack there of; I would have no moral qualms about aborting a fetus under certain conditions.

Women have been taking control of their own reproductive cycles since the dawn of time, though they have kept this info from the menfolk as long as possible - when they finally caught on they made women witches out of fear and ignorance.

If that makes me evil in your eyes then that is your issue not mine. Opinions to the contrary mean nothing to me.

Quoting the words of some long dead deranged rabbi will not change my mind or heart other than to harden it for the words in the book called holy are vile and full of hatred. My heart is full of love and peace until I am preached to by those who would hurt me for not buying the bible.

2007-02-12 10:42:10 · answer #7 · answered by Lee 4 · 1 3

Woman should have the right to choose. What if your girlfriend gets raped, then gets pregnant with the mans baby. I'd want her to choose. Its not morally wrong. Now, where faith fits into this is a shady area. From a purely atheist stand point abortion is ok, but once you get into religion things get hazey. And your right though Faith IS NOT science. I think its all up to the individual woman, not the government, and certainly not the church.

2007-02-12 10:40:13 · answer #8 · answered by nylablover93 2 · 2 3

I. Abortion is disobedience to the Law (of God)
The question “Who sets the rules for human conduct?” gets right at the heart of the issue. There are really only two alternatives: either God does or, man does.
God says in Exodus 20:13 -Thou shalt not kill.
ABORTION IS !
A. The evidence of scripture proclaims that a "fetus" is a baby!
The Bible does not distinguish between prenatal and postnatal life! Psalm 139:13-16 “For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.” Abortion interferes with the involvement of God in the womb.
Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb.” Abortion is wrong because God is shown to have a plan and purpose for the unborn.
Luke 1:44 “For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the leaped in my womb for joy.” The fact is clear that this child in the womb experienced joy. Joy involves personality, and personality involves life. In Luke 2:12 an angel appears to the shepherds in their fields and tells them that in the city of David they would find a wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. The word “babe” in Luke 1:44 and the word “babe” in Luke 2:12 are the same word in the Greek. The in the womb and the in the manger- in each case only the location of the baby is different.
Job 3:3 “Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.” The verse does not say a male was born; it says a male was conceived. The unborn is treated as a personal being. See Job 3:11 “Why died I not from the womb? why did I not give up the ghost when I came out of the belly?” Job mourns the fact that he did not die at birth. The obvious pre-condition of is life; one cannot die who has not lived; and when Job speaks of at birth, we must conclude that he views the unborn as life. See Exodus 21:22. Here God pronounces that the unborn child was to be protected against damage. Since God is concerned with the protection of the child in the mother’s womb. it will follow that we should have the same concern. If there was no injury to the child or the mother, the woman’s husband may demand a fine. However, if there is injury (either to mother or unborn), that is loss of life, then observe verse 23 where it states, “life for life.” In either case, the penalty is to be the same based on the fact that both the unborn and the mother represent life. Here is caear indication that there is life in the womb
B. The examination by sight proclaims that a "fetus" is a baby
You can see the eyes, mouths, fingers, and toes of an aborted fetus.
C. The experiments of science proclaim that a "fetus" is a baby
Life begins at conception. A human cell is composed of 46 chromosomes 23 from Mother and 23 from Father. Though it is nourished by the mother’s , it manufactures its own red and white cells, has its own heartbeat, and sends out its own brain waves. It is not “her body!” It is a different creature and creation from the mother!!

II. Abortion is disgusting to the Lord
Our text states that God destroying is an abomination to the Lord. The word, "abomination," means loathsome and disgusting.
A. Abortion is unnatural
Characteristic of "perilous times" of the last days - men would be without natural affection. God has put a natural affection in mothers for their babies.
B. Abortion is unappealing
It is a horrible procedure. It is not the same as getting a tumor removed or a wart removed. I know some argue that the unborn baby is nothing more than tissue and is part of the mother’s body. Removal of such is no more than an appendix or gall bladder removal. It is the taking of human life. The Bible calls it a child.
I have already shown you that the penalty of capital punishment was the same for the of an unborn child as it was for the of a grown woman.
C. Abortion is ungodly.
God s it.

III. Abortion is defiling to the land
See Psalm 106:38-40.
For the first one hundred and fifty years of our nation's history there was no question about the issue of abortion, it was illegal. In fact the Constitution states that all human beings were created with inalienable rights and were created equal by God. Those rights applied to the unborn as well the born.
I am very pleased that President Bush decided to block U.S. funds to international family-planning groups that offer abortion and abortion counseling.
It's a life not a lump! It's a child not a choice!
Abortion turns mothers into , doctors into destroyers, and America into an abomination.
Can you imagine a doctor asking God why he hasn't sent any person into the world who has the knowledge to cure AIDS, help world peace, or cure cancer. God replied, "I did, but you aborted them."
A. It is defiling our homes
B. It is defiling our heads
Our minds are being corrupted by a continual practicing and endorsing of sin!
C. It is defiling our hearts
I hear pastors reminiscing about how that people in America were more receptive to the gospel and the things of God in the late 60s and early 70s. Wasn't that before abortion became legal?
C. It is defiling our hands.
Our hands are guilty of shedding .

Some wise person wrote years ago, “Every civilized nation has had laws to protect the unborn.” Could this mean that America is not very civilized today?

2007-02-12 10:40:25 · answer #9 · answered by Preacher 4 · 1 1

It's always best to err on the side of caution. If there's any truth to life beginning at conception, then abortion is murder.

2007-02-12 10:31:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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