If god made the big bang, what made him, he couldnt have existsted without somethig to make him, them, etc.?

Question

I already know the question is un-answerable but people keep complaining that god made the universe. But who made god, then who made the person who made god, and if they were so busy making each other, was it just bleak whiteness? Seems kinda retarded to just make everyone for so long then just stop at the gods we know and they were the only smart ones to make a universe. Apparently something is odd. Im not against or Strongly For. I have a religion, im just not strongly in to it because of the statement I just made before.

Answer 1

Good question.

The reason why this question is so good, is because it so outstandingly shows why religion is pointless when it comes to explaining things.

The presence of a god, unlike some would have you believe, doesn’t explain anything. People wonder why there is existence, then come up with the idea of a god. However, then there is still the question of who created god, so it explains nothing.

Of course, you could say that god was always there, and he doesn’t need a beginning. Well, then neither does the universe. So again, it explains nothing.

Another popular answer to your question is: “God created himself!”. Well, as all powerful as that supposed God may or may not be, he really can’t do anything up until the point where he actually has power. No, not even if he is all powerful after that point.

Others say you just need to have faith in God. Frankly, that’s just saying: “I don’t know and I don’t care.” No, it’s not helpful.

So, to summarise: There is no real answer to your question, because believing in a god is rather illogical.

Answer 2

It's a mind-boggling question, isn't it?

The question becomes a little simpler if you assume there is no God in the universe, that humans created the concept of gods long before there was science out a profound human need for answers.

Since you like pondering the imponderables, chew on this...the idea that there had to be a "beginning" to all this is a human concept, created in the minds of human beings only because we are "intelligent" enough to do so. We assume that if something exists, it had to have a beginning at some point. If there were no human species, the idea of a beginning would no longer exist. Only the universe would exist, the infinitely various, dynamic universe. In other words, maybe there was no beginning.

I think we should approach our study of the universe with a little more humility, a little more respect for the awesome wonder of it all, with our minds a little more open to any possibility.

Answer 3

I thought the answers of Jennifer J and Ghostman were so good, that I wanted to affirm in part, modify in part, and supplement. I apologize to them for editing their comments. A good symposium. My comments are in brackets following their statements.
Jennifer J.:
The question becomes a little simpler if you assume there is no God in the universe,

[you can start with an umbrella assumption depending on
your definition of God][one could transcend and respect
The Creative Process and define that all- encompassing
“beingness and nothingness” as “God” and not lose any
abstract of omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience]

that humans created the concept of gods long before there was science out a profound human need for answers.

[something can pre-exist before there is a profound need
for the same][penicillin ingredients pre-existed human kind]

We assume that if something exists, it had to have a beginning at some point.
[we assume that because our gray matter has always been
instructed in three dimensions of finiteness since we were
conceived]

If there were no human species, the idea of a beginning would no longer exist.

[not necessarily, for something can exist without humans
perceiving the same, and a priori existence of “ideas ,matter,
intelligence, order, etc. is evident].

Only the universe would exist, the infinitely various, dynamic universe. In other words, maybe there was no beginning.

[and that is an inextricable characteristic of “infinite.”][a
theory of never ending matter expanding and evidence of
slower rate of expansion could indicate that the gravitational
force of matter, possibly denser black holes and their accretions
and resulting greater contractions over a trillion years will stop
the expansion and start the contraction, and that at the end of
the contraction phase, the density will be at maximum point for
the matter and there will be another big bang, and it goes on
and on.][What a mystery as to a “beginning”]

I think we should approach our study of the universe with a little more humility,

[well-put, and humility does not decrease aggressive intelligent
pursuit]

a little more respect for the awesome wonder of it all with our minds a little more open to any possibility.

Ghostman: The problem with understanding this is that we tend to think in linear terms... that is, we are unable to fathom the working mechanisms of what we call our universe

[we are able to fathom some now and we are pursuing
“fathoming” more. If we continue to pursue, then we may well
“fathom” more].

…imagine our intelligence level on a scale of one to 100. ..what we think of as god has an intelligence level of 100 and our intelligence level is a 2. If we understood twice as much as we do, we would still only be a level 4. E.g., sit your dog, disassemble a door lock in front of him, and explain to him very carefully how the locking mechanism works. You can explain it to him for the rest of his life and he wont be able to understand. There is mystery that our minds are unable to perceive. We can imagine that we would not understand even if some higher power were to tell us. And yet the dog doesn't even begin to wonder what is beyond the highway.

[But humans do]

We can come up with thousands of ideas and theories and maybe it's all just one seamless, never ending loop.
A microscopic organism cannot and will not ever know that anything exists outside of the slime that it was spawned in. The dog will never understand anything more than two or three dimensions, and we will never understand the unimaginably complicated structure of all of this or what designed and built it.

[However, we have come a long way from how we once
understood the “slime” and we have had leaps in our efforts
to understand. Who knows the future of the number of
“Einsteins” and others that may be born that have given us
insights in to the leaps].

Answer 4

The problem with understanding this is that we tend to think in linear terms... that is, we are unable to fathom the working mechanisms of what we call our universe.

To make it brief, imagine our intelligence level on a scale of one to 100. Just for the sake of having a number to work with, lets say that what we think of as god has an intelligence level of 100 and our intelligence level is somewhere around a 2. It may seem like we know alot about our universe, but if we understood twice as much as we do, we would still only be a level 4 (providing our minds could comprehend that type of information). For example, sit your pet cat or dog down at a table, disassemble a door lock in front of him, and explain to him very carefully how the locking mechanism works. You can explain it to him twenty times a day for the rest of his life and he just wont be able to to understand what you are trying to show him, but the fact is that humans not only understand how a lock works, but they designed and built them. You see, there is something, some mystery, about all of this that our minds are unable to perceive, let alone fathom. We can imagine that there is something out there that we do not know... that we would not understand even if some higher power were to tell us. And yet the dog doesn't even begin to wonder what is beyond the highway. He is unable to understand that just a few hundred miles west of him is the pacific ocean, something so huge he could never imagine the size of it, even if you were to throw him in it.

We can come up with thousands of ideas and theories about time and space... maybe they are actually the same thing, they just appear to be different to us, and maybe it's all just one seamless, never ending loop.

Whatever the case may be, if our minds had the capability of understanding the working mechanisms of the universe as we think of it, we probably would not need to rely upon math equations and measurements to prove some of the theories that we have. It would just come as natural common sense, much like knowing the difference between blue and red. Or better yet, hot and cold. We can measure them, but we know the difference without using the tool.

A microscopic organism cannot and will not ever know that anything exists outside of the slime that it was spawned in. The dog will never understand anything more than two or three dimensions, and we will never understand the unimaginably complicated structure of all of this or what designed and built it.

Answer 5

Your concept of God as a person with attributes is the problem for generating such unanswerable questions. This type of a God as a person with likes and dislikes, favoring His devotees and punishing those who don't believe in Him...is the product of the human mind. The God who made the universe is beyond all such attributes. I can write separately if you are interested.

And whether you believe or not, doesn't affect God, but affects you.

Answer 6

The fact that God can do anything and we don't have all the answers will tell you that questions like this will be divided between believers and non believers.
There is no simple answer for this one.

Answer 7

god was alive before anything on earth existed. Guess it's impposible to tell who created it.

Answer 8

The big bang theory is a joke...

Answer 9

Sounds like you are still restricting your knowledge because you can't get past looking at "material things".VENTURE a little.......

Answer 10

What came first, the chicken or the egg?