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What happened with the Macedonian minority in ocuppied part of Macedonia ?The Athens ABECEDAR Case! By signing the Treaty of Sevres on 10th August, 1920, the Greek government undertook certain obligations regarding "the protection of the non-Greek national minorities in Greece". Articles 7, 8 and 9 of this treaty stipulated precisely the free use of the minorities' language, education, religious practice, etc. Bulgaria and the Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes interested themselves in the implementation of this treaty, and when Greece realized it was in its interest to sign the "Lesser Protocols" (League of Nations, Geneva, 29th September 1924) on the protection of the Greek minority in Bulgaria and the reciprocal protection of the Bulgarian minority in Greece, Sofia launched a campaign in support of the activities initiated by the Joint Greek-Bulgarian Commission for the ,'voluntary" exchange of minorities. Large numbers of Macedonians were forcibly moved to Bulgaria...

2007-02-11 03:41:59 · 6 answers · asked by flavivs severvs 3 in Arts & Humanities History

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Here is a recent link from a web site:

Many ethnic Macedonians who fled Greece as a result of the 1946-49 civil war were not allowed to enter Greece in 1998, even for brief visits, or to attend events related to the fiftieth anniversary of their exodus in July, despite written commitments to the contrary by the Greek government. In July 1998, the European Court of Human Rights found that Greece had violated article 11 (freedom of association) of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) because the Greek courts had not allowed the establishment of the association “Home of Macedonian Civilization” in 1990.
To read all article about all minorities in Greece, including Macedonians open here:

http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/europe/greece.html

2007-02-11 12:52:04 · answer #1 · answered by Karolina D 3 · 9 12

There is only one minority in Greece and that is of the muslims in Thrace. Greece recognizes the right of everyone to be self identified as he wants but there are and there has never existed a ''macedonian'' minority in Greece. Macedonia has always been a part of Greek history and Macedonians have always been Greeks with Greek consiousness. The self-called ''macedonians'' from F.Y.R.O.M. are infact Slavbulgarians and this is how they reffered to themselves before 1912.All of the sudden they want to be called Macedonians. Does this have anything to do with former Yugoslavias and todays F.Y.R.O.M.s imperialistic views over the Aegean sea?That is correct. Those forced to Bulgaria were Bulgarians that lived in Macedonia together with greeks,serbs and Turks and they were forced to live according to the change of population. No macedonian was forced to leave macedonia because the macedonians are greeks and they were at last able to be free and joined with the rest of Greece.
STOP THE PROPAGANDA!

2007-02-11 22:52:37 · answer #2 · answered by iguana 2 · 13 10

Greece is terrible when it comes to the treatment of minorities. The are no ethnic divisions in Greece and Greece does not recognize any other groups. But what really pisses me off is that when ever the Greek diplomats visit Albania they are constantly complaining about the 50,000 beleaguered Greeks in Albania and broader rights.

2007-02-11 08:50:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 10 11

There isnt such think as “ocypied part of Macedonia”.
There was never a “Macedonian” minority in Greece!
There are the authentic(Greek) Macedonians, the Bulgarian-Macedonians and the Albanian-Macedonians.
As you said after the Balkan wars Greece and Bulgaria agreed in a voluntary exchange of minorities. ((Treaty of Neuilly)
All the Bulgarian-Macedonians left Greece and all the authentic(Greek)-Macedonians left Bulgaria.
According to the demographic research and censuses before and around 1913 the geographic area of the ottoman province of Macedonian was identified as predominantly Greek by almost every researcher and historian of that time such as French F. Bianconi in 1877, by Englishman Edward Stanford in 1877. French scholars Ami Boué in 1840 and Guillaume Lejean in 1861, Germans August Heinrich Rudolf Griesebach in 1841, J. Hahn in 1858 and 1863, August Heinrich Petermann in 1869 and Heinrich Kiepert in 1876, Slovak Pavel Jozef Safarik in 1842 and the Czechs J. Erben in 1868 and F. Brodaska in 1869, Englishmen James Wyld in 1877 and Georgina Muir Mackenzie and Adeline Paulina Irby in 1863, Serbians Davidovitch in 1848, Constant Desjardins in 1853 and Stefan I. Verković in 1860, Russians Viktor I. Grigorovič in 1848, Vinkenty Makushev and M.F. Mirkovitch in 1867, as well as Austrian Karl Sax in 1878 published ethnography or linguistic books, or travel notes, which defined the Slavic population of Macedonia as Bulgarian. None of the above discovered any traces of any non Greek “Macedonian” nation!
The official Ottoman census of the Hilmi Pasha (1904) gives the following numbers:
Vilaeti of Thessaloniki Greeks: 373,227 Bulgarians: 207,317
Vilaeti of Monastiri (now called Bitola!) Greeks: 261,283 Bulgarians: 78,412
Santzaki of Scopje Greeks: 13,452 Bulgarians: 172,735
As you can see there is no trace of any non-Greek Macedonian or non-Bulgarian Macedonian.
There few though who claim to be Slav-Macedonians in Greece!!! They formed a political Party (with 10-25 members). And they formed a coalition with an extreme left party(the OAKE group) and few gay/lesbian activist groups and they participated in the election with the name Rainbow.
The coalition received 2,955 votes in the region of authentic Macedonia (in a total of 2,450,000 population) in the latest elections (2004).
A pro-Bulgarian political party, known as Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia (Български Човешки Права в Македония) was established in June 2000, promoting the concept and rights of what they describe as the "Bulgarian minority in Greece". This party has not yet participated in elections simply because it can not raise any members!
The country in the Balkans with the most severe violations of human wrights is FYROM (Slavic/Albanian-Macedonia).
For example the cases of harassment of pro-Bulgarian organizations and activists have been reported in the Republic of Macedonia. In 2000 several teenagers threw smoke bombs at the conference of pro-Bulgarian organization 'Radko' in Skopje causing panic and confusion among the delegates. The perpetrators were afterwards acclaimed by the Macedonian press as national heroes. 'Radko' was later banned (and strongly criticized) by the Slav-Macedonian Constitutional Court as separatist. (Note that Greece allows the very few Slav-Macedonians to even have a political party!) The organization 'Radko' has continued its activity, though mostly in the cultural field.
Front cover of Songs of the Macedonian Bulgarians by Stefan Verkovic, first edition (1860). In 2001 'Radko' issued in Skopje the original version of the folk song collection 'Bulgarian Folk Songs' by the Miladinov Brothers (issued under an edited name in the Republic of Macedonia and viewed as a collection of Slav Macedonian lyrics). The book triggered a wave of other publications, among which the memoirs of the Greek bishop of Kastoria, in which he talked about the Greek-Bulgarian church struggle at the beginning of the 20th century, as well the Report of the Carnegie Commission on the causes and conduct of the Balkan Wars from 1913. Neither of these addressed the ethnic Macedonian population of Macedonia as Macedonians but as Bulgarians. Being the first publications to question the official Macedonian position of the existence of a distinct Macedonian identity going back to the time of Alexander the Great (Macedonism), the books triggered a reaction of shock and disbelief in Macedonian public opinion. The scandal after the publication of 'Bulgarian Folk Songs' resulted in the sacking of the Macedonian Minister of Culture, Dimitar Dimitrov.
According to Human Rights Watch, many former Yugoslav citizens remain "effectively stateless" as a result of a citizenship law drafted after Macedonia's secession from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
Large numbers of ethnic Albanians, Turks, and Roma who knew no other home than Slavic/Albania-Macedonia remained effectively stateless as a result of the law.
According to the International Helsinki Federation for Human Rights, the following human rights abuses have been reported:
Police abuse of suspects, particularly during initial arrest and detention
Police harassment of ethnic minorities, particularly Roma
Impunity and corruption in the police force
Political pressure on the judiciary
Societal violence and discrimination against women, children and ethnic minorities, particularly Roma
Trafficking in women and girls for sexual exploitation
Government interference with union activity
Further more Rioters Burn Albanian Homes in Bitola
Police Fail to Stop Violence, Some Actively Participate
(06/06/01) – “Police in the Slav-Macedonian city of Bitola (old Greek city of Manastery)- did not attempt to stop rioting crowds on Wednesday night, and some police officers actively participated in the violence, Human Rights Watch said today. As a result, dozens of ethnic Albanian homes and as many as 100 shops were burned by the mob.”
The asker should first try to bring basic human wrights in his country and then question Greece!
Next time the asker should try to make some research and then post questions!!
(Check also the following sites to see also that the basic human wrights do not exist in Slavic/Albanian-Macedonia)

2007-02-11 11:18:53 · answer #4 · answered by ragzeus 6 · 14 11

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