What do you think about this (about our real self)?

Question

The real self is oppressed the moment that the world distracts you
from trusting your own intuition. This happens at a very early age.
The false identity people are injected is formed through the
socialisation process, which starts when the child is 2-3 years old.
Before then, the child would play by itself, in its own world.

Because the socialisation process is seen by society as a necessity
for the child to learn how to become a piece in the social machinery,
the crime it represents is ignored. -Even by those who have the
intelligence to see it for what it is. The social norms that decide
how people relate to each other, represent a prejudice no one is
allowed to challenge.

Answer 1

I am not gifted in psychology, but i find it very intriguing. I think from what you were mentioning about our real selves. Basically when we are born in this world, we are born innocent to everything around us. Innocence in a way of having no conception of whats right and wrong, good and evil. We are basically molded by our learning from our environment. In a way the real self would be described as biological being or what our personality passed to us by our genes (this is natural, and mostly not easily changed). The same as in psychology's "nature versus nurture." Biological versus environmental.
From my observation and might already be thought by others. Whatever the mentality of society is a person's personality is formed from that although still maintaining their true selfs. This process is different when you bring on people that are nonconformist. Most of society is conforming.

Answer 2

People are challenging social "norms" all the time. There are no social norms...that will depend intirely on how they were raised. Also different cultures will have different socially acceptable codes....so socially acceptable behaviour in not universal...it depends entirely on the culture and the way you were raised. What you learn at university about sociology and psychology are all theories....not factual. Where do you get the idea that we are oppressed the moment the world distracts you from trusting your own intuition? That is absolutely crazy. What do you want us to do. Do you want us to lock our children away, so they can trust their intuition exclusively and not have any contact with the outside world? What kind of life would that be for anyone. Life is about learning, it is about compromising...it is about how to get along with our fellow human beings. It is about drawing conclusions based on what we see, what we fee and what we experience. Our identity is formed by the people around us. We choose to believe certain things based on what is acceptable to us. Without the world and its "distractions" a child would grow up to be very self centred if all they ever knew were their own intuition. How in the hell could they have intuition if they are not exposed to the world. I think this brings you to the question of why are we born in the first place. Obviously it is for a greater spiritual purpose...well, thats what I believe. If we never suffer pain or hurt then how do we grow to be strong? Life is the biggest teacher, and without it, even the bad things, we would not know how to deal with adversity.

I dont really know what you are trying to say, but I personally think you need to go and do a couple of classes in philosophy to bring you back to the real world.

Answer 3

I think you raise a solid and interesting question.

I feel that social norms are not challenged in a direct and grand way, however, because they simply can't be. Parents are steeped in norms (an adapted version), and they raise their children, which is a necessity. Children learn both the functional and disfunctional portions of the parents' system. And again, by necessity, they train their children to cope within the system. Small changes occur continuously, however.

There are some that recognize and embrace and trust their own intuition, but if it threatens to hurt a person, or persons within the system (above all, do no harm), or the system itself, then this person is socialized (sometimes doing jail time) into rethinking a new way of 'being' within the system.

If you were to more clearly define the social prejudice that you witness, it may be easier to gain support for your cause.

Live well

Answer 4

I think you are wrong.

Yes we have basic traits, some of which we are inheirantly born with and the rest are formed through life.

But the ones formed through life, are the ones that mould the "real Self" to it's advantage.

Some-one brought up alone, without the interaction of others or exposure to the complexities of life, would have a real hard time adapting, if forced to face normal life situations in the future.

Self is an every changing thing, It's like taking a rough diamond which is hard to recognize as a diamond, that has a gem as its core, and slowly cutting and polishing until all that makes it valuable, shows through.
So is life, Your Basic self is the inside of the raw diamond, life experience and interactions are the cut and polish.

Answer 5

Otherwise you'd be stuck with self gratification all your life.

Answer 6

WILL GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT.