Do black holes really exist?if yes why it cant be mathematically prooved?

Answer 1

It's not really a matter of mathematics so much as astrophysics. Unlike math, physics must match reality -- and reality is hard to define, much less prove. And it's hard to prove something that we can't directly observe, so the best we have is theories.

Even if you have a proven mathematical equation that says that says if some principle X is true (and all observations to date have confirmed this), then black holes must exist, how do you know that the equation accurately and completely describes the actual physical law? For example, math often assumes that things are infinite, which is clearly not the case in every situation.

Answer 2

They do.

And it can and has been.

Mathematics is completely provable. Basically the = sign in an equation means "is the same as", so if the logic is correct the solution in mathematical terms is proved.

Mathematical solutions to the Einstein Field Equations predict black holes (in fact, they were first predicted almost 400 years ago by an English cleric using Newtons equations).

The hard thing is proving that these equations are describing something that really occurs. This can only be done by building a body of supporting evidence - of which there is now enough to be sure.

Answer 3

Real simple:

Black Holes were predicted ("proved") mathematically using General Relativity theory long before we actually observed them. Great story - the original theoretical prediction was worked out by a German soldier (physicist) in the trenches during WWI.

Black holes have been "observed" by astronomers based on the influence that they exert on surrounding stars.

The details of the behavior and properties of black holes is still a subject for debate, until we can make observations that can distinguish between different physical models - that's science

So bottom line - they do exist

Answer 4

Black holes do exist. Hundreds have been located since before 1980 due to an effect called gravitational lensing. Essentially, the observer sees two objects in the sky that are known to be one single object. The light from that object bends around the black hole creating the appearance of two objects.

Proving a black hole mathematically is problematic because the laws of physics break down in the vicinity of a black hole. This just means that the formulas that explain how matter behaves just don't work under the extreme force of gravity around a black hole. Different disciplines of physics use different mathematic equations to explain how their areas of physics work. In order to explain how things behave in the vicinity of a black hole, these different areas would have to be unified and equations developed that worked in all disciplines.

Answer 5

Well.... I shall not enter into deep "latin" terminology and "big words" or I'll avoid to use the term..."Hawkins".. trying to confuse you.

Black Holes exist. simply I'll give you couple sites and then it is your turn to go and get more info if you want.

I am not an "Authority" in Black Holes. Just an "information seeker" like you.

http://www.astrosociety.org/education/publications/tnl/24/24.html

contains the initial information about the history of the discovery of the black holes, with their own mayjematical explanations as well.

Here there are some photos of "how looks" a black hole, created by artists or computers.


http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/B/blackhole.html

and here is a video of the location of a black hole, result of more than ten years studies of some astronomers, (you'll get their names in the article) and you'll see how they discovered it.
(there was a press release in 2002)

http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2002/pr-17-02.html


Good Surfing....and .... Enjoy:)

Answer 6

black holes are a phenonemon that arises out of mathematical equations.
therefore if the equations are correct, then they certainly do exist.

however it is possible to view the effects of a black hole, and these observations correlate with the equations.

it is impossible to proove mathematical equations to be correct, except by lots and lots of observations. Think that Newtons laws were 'correct' for 300 years, and then came along einstein with a better idea - relativity.

thus, you can only prove within the frame of belief that you started out with. ie that the equations were correct.

Answer 7

Black holes do not exist but it is possible with mathematics to show they do..
They are a very logical theoretical entity arrived at in a very convincing way.
They are accepted by many prominent scientists.
A deep objective analysis turn them into a non entity.
Remember the square root of minus one?

Answer 8

The Quantum physics approves, that in the beginning God
created " virtual particles ".
Astrophysics approve, that in the beginning the God created
" latent mass ","invisible particles ", “'missing mass'” or “'dark matter'”.
From them the God created everything.
But nobody knows, what is " virtual particles ",“'dark matter'”
what is " latent mass ", " invisible particles ".
And then the physicists are surprised :
“Why is the nature of the microworld so paradoxical ?”
We use words not understanding their meaning.
Does any body remember how we call people
who say words and do not know their mining?
Who are we?
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Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with
relict isotropic radiation T = 2,7K is absolute.
But T = 2,7K is not a constant factor.
This relict isotropic radiation continues to extend and decrease
and, hence, approximately over a period of
20 billions years will reach T=0K.
That is a structure of Nothing, of Vacuum, of Absolute Zero.
2.
What a geometrical and physical parameters can the particles have in
the structure of Nothing, in Vacuum, in Absolute Zero in T=0K?
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According to the laws of physics :
J. Charles ( 1787), Gay-Lussac ( 1802),
W. Nernst ( 1910), A. Einstein ( 1925)
particles in a Vacuum cannot have density, volume
and consequently should be flat figures.
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These laws tell, that
then closer to zero T=0K, then the particles lose more their volume.
The volume of these particles aspire to infinity.
And then this “ infinity” comes the brain of physicists
stop to work. They refuse to think any more.
And I say when volume of the particles disappear they
become “flat phantoms”.
These “flat phantoms” are not abstract particles, they are real ones.
Quantums of light flies with speed c=1 have such geometrical form.
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Answer 9

Black Holes were first mathematically identified, and then evidence of their existence in space was found.

Answer 10

For a simplified explanation that anyone with high school physics can follow, view the blog of Jack Norton-Krell at myspace (http://www.myspace.com/67273704) and see the various opinions on gravastars, collapsars and black holes at the Wikipedia website.