Is it true to make millions of people homeless because many years ago their ancestors lived there?(even this is not real!!)
2007-02-10 20:20:08 · 20 answers · asked by shshram k 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
Israel is internationally recognized as a legal country at its 1967 borders. It should return to those borders, giving up Gaza, the Golan, and the West Bank permanently. And of course it should respect the rights of non-Jewish citizens and make appropriate reparations for seized property (as a reasonable alternative to right of return).
And leave God out of the discussion. One people's notion of God does not define the law.
2007-02-10 20:29:17 · answer #1 · answered by Mark P 5 · 5⤊ 2⤋
Definitely it is legal within the Green Line, under a UN mandate. Whether it legally occupies the Palestinian territories of Gaza and the West Bank (plus the Golan Heights and the Shebah Farms) is some matter of debate, because they took that land in two wars.
I don't often like to use this analogy because Saddam Hussein was such a creep, but I will. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, the world railed against it, and invaded Iraq to give Kuwait back. Iraq "won" Kuwait in a war, as Israel "won" the OTs, yet nobody forced Israel to give the OTs back to Jordan, Syria and (then) Egypt (Israel voluntarily ceded the Egyptian part of the Sinai as part of a peace deal).
I think part of the complication is due to the fact that Jordan - which is at peace with Israel - has not formally demanded its territory back, and Syria launched a second war in '73 to try to regain the Golan Heights and lost. Syria and Israel are not on good terms (that's an understatement). The PLO was an additional complication. When you're the King of Jordan and there's a resistance movement of people who just happened to live on your territory - do you negotiate for the return of your land or let the people who lived on it wage their own war?
The tone of your question does not really address the "historical claim" of Jews to a spot in the Middle East. Jews do not have a "historical homeland" per se, but for 2,000 years they lived together as one tribe in the area which used to be the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Let me put it rather plainly. You are a minority group, with land which you once ruled, but later continued to live on as subjugates. You fought for self-rule, you were kicked out. Your people migrated, but everywhere they went they were kicked out or killed. So 2,000 years later, someone forms a little movement to go home, to a place where you can live, farm and practice your religion openly. That land happens to be occupied by a big colonial power. You start small with a few kibbutzes and collective farms. More and more people of your faith come. Now come the people who are lawyers and judges, and you think you can make a go of self-government. The ruling power gives you a little authority, but not autonomy. You get more and more angry. You revolt. You cause the ruling power so much trouble they agree to give up the land.
Apart from the fact that the Jews waited a long time to go back to Israel (for practical reasons - they were too few, too poor and too powerless), how is this really any different from any other group wanting self-determination?
2007-02-11 02:31:37 · answer #2 · answered by lesroys 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Whether it's legal is hardly the issue here. The question is why do some nation's feel compelled to create nations (Israel and Iraq) when the inhabitants oppose this. Today's fighting in Israel, between the Jews and the Arabs, and the Shiite/Sunni fighting in Iraq, is in direct correlation to the fact that an outside nation made a decision that the natives didn't want.
While someone may disagree, there is not a single person in the United States who will debate me in public on this issue.
2007-02-10 21:11:43 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Yes Millions in Homelessness where.
2007-02-10 23:28:00 · answer #4 · answered by ALunaticFriend 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Oh come on you are sounding like a biased person looking to plant propaganda into the brains of people. Go back 6000 years ? Who's land was it then? There were no Arabs there! Jeruselum belongs to the Jewish people and it is the Holy Land of Jesus the Rabbi and he is Jesus Christ almighty! And we believe he is the son of God! There is no way we are ever going to turn over a land that was founded and structured by a man who was blessed by Jehovah himself and his name was David, and that is King David to you! and then his son Solomon, and then his son lost it to the morons, and then came back and took it back again! Why would we give a land to people that are just squatters and want to destroy everything. They were not wanted by the other Arab countries and israel took them in and America supported them as well. And they are still not satisfied! Get real, get jobs, form a system for your children to live in peace, stop the fanatics that blow themselves up! There is no god in heaven that sacrifices Humans, Remember Abraham, and Isaac? Or just Ishmael? And that is why you think that God sacrifices humans? Ishmael, because he was banished. But he was given a kingdom, Assyria right? So why not leave everyone alone with all of that crap and be happy you have that for heritage. you cant change the past but you can build a better future and make peace. Isaac was not sacrificed and he never will be, so get over it. Embrace it Israel belongs to Abraham and his people! And Assyria belongs to you! Unless you are willing to convert or live in peace side by side and govern your own people without hatred and violence or no one will want you, and history will repeat itself, because that is why Ishmael was banished he tried to kill his baby brother from jealousy and that is what is going on over and over again? Cain and Abel! Abel and all his kind will inherit this earth and not the aggressors so remember that and no false profits, from any bible can change that ever!
2007-02-10 20:36:32 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
NOPE TAKEN FROM THE PALESTINIANS IN 1948 FOR A HOMELAND FOR THE JEWS...THATS NOT A BAD IDEA, BUT WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND YOU TAKE THERE LAND UNLAWFULLY, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONFLICTS; WHICH STILL CONTINUE..THE JEWS CAN LIVE PEACEFULLY IN THE COUNTRY OF PALESTINE...PLUS THE ISRAEL WAS NEVER A COUNTRY ITS A STATE CREATED BY THE UN...YES THE JEWS LIVED THERE MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THE JEWS HAD MANY WARS WITH THE MUSLIMS AND THE MUSLIMS TOOK OVER IN A WAR..WITH TREATIES AND STUFF SO THEY WON IT...THE JEWS CANT JUST SAY I WANT A COUNTRY FOR JUDAISM AND JUST TAKE IT..
2007-02-14 13:25:50 · answer #6 · answered by soccerplayer007me 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The Israelis defeated the Arabs fair and square in a civil war.
Just like Revolutionaries beat the British in our Revolutionary war.
The Arabs could have satyed and lived in peace, or ,oved to another country as millions have done throughout history when a govt changes control and they don't want to live under it. But their desire the eliminate the Jews won't cease.
Israel is as legal as the US.
2007-02-10 20:38:23 · answer #7 · answered by bettysdad 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
1947
November 29: UN General Assembly Resolution 181: the 1947 UN Partition Plan, accepted by Jews, rejected by Arabs, who claimed that the UN had no authority to pass such resolutions
2007-02-10 21:40:13 · answer #8 · answered by gnus 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it's a legal country. Over the years countries have changed ownership, mostly caused by invading armies. Just because Israel acquired her land by another method does not mean it's not a legal country now.
2007-02-10 20:29:52 · answer #9 · answered by sparks 7 · 5⤊ 2⤋
no it's not legal. The big powers after WW2 took land that didn't belong to them and gave it to people who didn't live there. I empathize with the plight of the Jews after the holocaust, but that doesn't mean it's OK to steal from others.
2007-02-10 22:15:45 · answer #10 · answered by guy o 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋