water...fuel..why not?

Question

Ok, this is probably implausable but......
If you had a tank of water and two electrodes to split the water into 2 parts Hydrogen and 1 part oxygen.......injected the gasses into a combustion chamber, ignigted the mixture and then somehow transported the waste, ie WATER back to the original tank would this be a feasable sollution for powering motorised vehicles?

Answer 1

Not yet, you would run out of battery power before you got 20 miles (just a guess, but I know the number of mile is too low as our current batteries do not hold enough energy.
Take note of the electric cars, they get about 100 miles per charge. And an internal combustion engine loses something like 80% of its energy to heat loss.

Answer 2

Nice idea, but unfortunately it has a few fundamental flaws.

As energy can neither be created or destroyed, simply changed from one form to another, for your system to work it would be necessary to add energy into your system.

This is illustrated by the following example:

In order to convert (or technically speaking electrolysise) water into it's component parts (Hydrogen and Oxygen) it is necessary to consume electricity. If it were possible to burn these gasses in a 100% engine linked to a 100% efficient generator, this process could be self sustaining. As 100% efficient engines and generators do not exist, this system is not possible in the real world.

Also is the added complication that the above example does not include any provision to actually propel the vehicle. This would extract further energy from the system, thus leaving a defficiency in the level of power required electrolysise the water, and cause the system to grind to a hault.

The theory would only work if it were possible to use very high capacity batteries to store enough energy to sustain the system for extended periods, these unfortunately do not exist.......yet.

Answer 3

What you're talking about is some form of over-unity energy production or perpetual motion system.

Even if what you said was feasible, some of the energy would be lost as heat and sound so the amount returning to the tank would always be less than what you had used.

Even today, the closest system to do this is the fuel cell. It's currently used aboard the space shuttle and ISS to power electrical systems.

If it is ever developed to the point where it can be put into a domestic car, the petrol companies will be very worried.

Answer 4

An extremely simple way of putting an incredibly complex process.


It would be possible but we do not have the technology to gain sufficient power for the 'split' or the injection for combustion.

If you had a car the size of a Coke can (not Pepsi 'cos I don't like Pepsi), and a fuel tank the size of the Petrol Delivery Tanker, you may get enough power to move the Coke can an inch but not if it is connected to the 'fuel' tank.

Rather self defeating at the moment.


Mind you, according to the Conspiracy Theorists - the Petrol Companies have had the secret of Purified Water Propulsion for years.


:~}

Answer 5

You are close, but no cigar. Instead, they separate the hydrogen and put it between two plates called a fuel cell. The by product of this process is water, which most vehicles and other Earth-bound processors discharge rather than to keep. Carrying the extra water is just extra weight and lowers fuel economy. Also, at this time, it is too expensive to convert your own water back to hydrogen....it is much cheaper to buy hydrogen in tanks, although hydrogen in small tanks is still too expensive to efficiently power a small car.

Answer 6

This question has been asked many times but unfortunately you need more power to convert water to gases than you can produce although it is supposed to have been done. Check Suppressed technology http://befreetech.com/energysuppression.htm
it is very interesting reading if you are into that sort of thing. My self I sell and are developing alternative energy (in a small way) At the moment I am building an alternator which is driven at the same speed as a water wheel. If you want to know any more e-mail me
http://alternativeenergysuppliesuk.com/

Answer 7

Matter can be neither created nor destroyed. So the short answer is that you would run out of water.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

Nice idea but about 200yrs before technology has caught up.

Answer 10

no you would explode and if you do not want to take my word for it take some liquid hydrogen and set it on fire