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I mean Catholics are Native Irish and scots (picts) & Celtics, so when people say define Ulster-Scots or Sctoch-Irish it still means they are English ancestry right, so isnt it better just saying they are Anglo-Saxon heritage, as i said Native Irish are Cathlics ans so to Scottish Catholics are Picts, if this is inaccurrate could then someone tell me the facts, thanks.

2007-02-08 22:02:49 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Travel United Kingdom Belfast

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NO NO NO, the Scots are predominately Anglo Saxon with a lot of Norman blood mixed in. Robert de Bruis and Guillaum Walleys were both of Norman descent. The original "Scots" did come from Ireland however.

In the treaty of Arbroath it plainly states ' The Picts we utterly destroyed".

There are many "geaels" "gaeltach" or "celtique" persons on the west coast of Scotland however.


Catholicism is another matter entirely and hatreds still run deep because it took Scotland hundreds of years to free itself from the clutches of Rome. Much blood was spilled.

Many Catholics in South west Scotland are descended from Irish 'Celtic" potato famine immigrants who came to Scotland during late part of the 19th century. They were strike breakers in the main- read the history of the birth of the Labout movement in Scotland.

2007-02-08 22:10:39 · answer #1 · answered by Not Ecky Boy 6 · 3 0

There were originally about a dozen or so peoples living in Britain.
The most notable ones were
The Scots (who lived in Northern Ireland)
The Hibernians (the rest of Ireland)
The Picts (Scotland)
and the Britons (England and Wales)

The Romans came and ruled over the Britons. The Britons still lived in England and Wales but under Roman rule and with Romanised customs. The Scots left Ireland and conquered the Western Picts before the two peoples united under one King.

Catholicism spread to Ireland in the 5th century. Before this time the people there were not Catholic, Jesus was not born in Ireland at the dawn of time so it is impossible that they could always have been Catholic.

Celts are the peoples who lived in southern Germany, Switzerland, Denmark, France, Belgium, Spain, The Netherlands, Britain and Ireland before the Romans conquered these areas.

The Saxons came from Denmark. They migrated to Britain in the 5th century AD. They were a Germanic people like the northern Germans, and the Scandinavians. They settled in the South and East of England and some of the Eastern parts of Scotland.

So the remaining Celtic peoples in Britain were the Welsh, the Scots and the Irish. The Picts were not a Celtic people as they had a different way of life and different customs, their way of life eventually faded away and was replaced by the Scottish way of life.

The Saxons are closer to the Vikings than they were to the natives of Britain at this time. Anglosaxon refers to the peoples of England, and mostly the South of England at that. The Welsh, Irish and Scots are all Celtic nations and the North of England has many links to the Viking invaiders of the 10th and 11th centuries.

2007-02-08 22:27:16 · answer #2 · answered by monkeymanelvis 7 · 1 0

They are Celtics of a different tribe. The Celtics were the first civilization of Europe. When the Greeks, knew them the were called "Keltoi" a word meaning barbarian.(hence the name Celtic) The Celtics had many tribes throughout Europe and when the wars with Rome were lost to them the only tribes left untouched were the ones in Ireland and Scotland. Ireland was basically populated from the lands around Spain and Portugal and have a strong Moorish legacy as well. So it would be safe to say that the Ulster Scots are in fact descendants of the Spanish immigration as well so they would be Irish,and Celtic natives.Anglo Saxons are Celts as well only from a more Teutonic tribe than others. In The Bible the Galatians and the Corinthians were Celtic tribes. Just a foot note there.

2016-05-24 00:30:52 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

English ancestry wrong (not right).

Most protestants in Ulster were from Scotland.
Moved over in Elizabethan times encouraged by the Government of the time.

2007-02-08 22:11:54 · answer #4 · answered by efes_haze 5 · 1 0

You are putting religion and nationality together. Thats not right. Native Irish and scottish years ago were druids in religion but still had their own nationality. Going from those times to the present day people need to seperate religion from nationality

2007-02-12 02:14:50 · answer #5 · answered by jan b 3 · 0 0

I think most of them are of Scottish origin, not English.

2007-02-08 22:10:01 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

youre confused...

im English.. mum was english as was dad...

my grandparents were Irish/Greek (dads side) and Scots/English (mums side) our family name dates back to teh 6th Century, and is Welsh! (llanigon)... it means the church of Igon/Igan, and she was the first christian female saint...

2007-02-08 22:18:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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