Feminist say that men are the cause of wars. Is this really true, or more corrupt information?

Question

Before you answer that, think about this: A strange man says he's gonna slap your wife. You want to take you wife & leave the problem, but she insists that you stand up to the guy because she's tired of the harassment. You do so, the guy tries to fight you, you knock him out, thus, protecting your wife, & she is happy. You have an arguement one day & break up. She has talks with her female friends about feminism & how men always cause wars & are so violent. She then uses that one experience as an example, saying, "my ex husband even fought a guy who harassed me. See how violent men are?"

My point is, it seems to me that men don't go to wars just for the fun of it. Many of them do it to protect their wives, their home, their families. Many times the wives are all for it & cheering their men on to protect them. So when I hear femininsts say that it's men who cause wars & act violently, it makes no sense to think that women are innocent & have nothing to do with it.

Thoughts?

UpYouNose: I guess their won't be a real conclusion here since I can't prove that any leaders wives or mothers, etc, agree with and cheer on the decision to fight.

BUT what I do know, personally, is that many women do indeed cheer on, agree with, participate in, and sometimes provoke fights with other people through their boyfriends, husbands, and sometimes they do the fighting themselves.

Because I've seen and witnessed this in my time in this world, it's only logical for me to think that this behavior doesn't stop at the Presidents office. Knowing this, it would be foolish for me to pretend that women are all so sensitive that they would never do such a think.

Baba Yaga: I guess men and women are so different because one rarely sees life through the others shoes, that they're may never really be true understanding between the two.

Maybe men and women should stay seperated, and continue to believe negative things about the others.

Caesar's wife: Hitler was probably gay for all I know. Even so, and not that this has much to do with the topic, but their were millions of young women in Germany who praised Hitler like a god, and all wanted to be his wives. they loved and believed in him. Those women didn't kill anyone, but the fact that the followed Hitler tells me they're minds where just as corrupt as Hitler and the rest of the Natzi's...only, since they're women, their bodies and minds weren't prepared for killing as the men.

Up Your Nose: I think that the women don't usually make the men fight. My point is that the women who cheer their men on, and believe in the war just as their men do, doesn't make them any more right or better than the men doing the fighting. I think both are wrong.

Up Your Nose: Yes, both sexes are wrong. If they both believ in the killing and they both support it, whther that be mentallit on womens part or physically on mens part, they are both wrong. That makes sense to me.

Also, I think your missing the last point I made. I said that I don't think women usually force the men to fight by telling them to. I said that the women are just as bad if they are cheering for their men to fight.

If you don't know of any women who like fighting, then I will at least inform you of the many women in bad neigborhood who are in female gangs. They walk around beating people up just like men do. If you care to learn anymore about female violence, please look this up for starters.

If you feel that you can safely say it's only men who want violence, thats like a white racist white guy saying it's only black people who are thugs and go to jail.

Aurora: So, if the man decides to do what his wife says because he cares for her, then you say the fight was his problem and both men cased it.

If the husband does nothing and lets the man attack her, then you will say he is insensitive and who doesn't care about his wife enough.

If you both walk away from the fight, she could say he is a coward.

I think no matter what the situation, many women, like yourself, just want to bash men in general. It seems like any decision a man makes is going to be wrong either one womans eyes or another.

I'm a man who's seen this, but most women don't beause they're blinded by what feminism has taught them.

Answer 1

Its convenient to blame men, because for a long time now, men have been in charge. I do not believe for a second that women are innocent of the crime of egging their men on. How many times have we heard about a man reluctant to participate in certain violent situations, but he had to otherwise his wife would think of him as a sissy and less of a man. How many women sat around exploiting slaves, just like their male counterparts? ALOT! How many women have claimed rape in order to destroy someones life? How many women have lied about who the father of their children are, in order to trap the more responsible guy? How many women have denied their childs right to know who the heck their father is, simply because the father does not want a relationship with her? This is some evil sh*t, and so I am not going to sit and believe that only men are capable of wrong doing and malice aforthought.

Answer 2

I don't think women make leaders of countries decide to have war. That theory of yours is totally wrong. It's more of GREED and POWER that are inherent in all human beings, but only much stronger in men because it's true, women are more sensitive.

Also, I wouldn't want my significant other to fight the man, perhaps women who want to watch a little man-on-man action would want their husbands to fight another man, because normal people just want to get out of there

Edit: Those women who like hitler are the same as the men who like hitler. Majority of the germans supported Hitler, and it's because they were led astray, they didnt' have minds of their own. Both sexes supported Hitler.

Edit: So what you are saying is that both sexes are wrong? Because men can think for themselves, if just because women are cheering them on to get themselves killed then they are stupid. Besides, I really do not know any women that I know to like fighting..in fact it's quite the opposite. Also looking at how the majority who watch wrestling are men, I can safely say that it is the men who want the violence, not the women who put pressure on them.

Answer 3

What you say makes complete sense|

A man has to fight to protect his woman or anything else that he values from predators|


But what the feminist does is twist all this|

If the man rightfully takes up arms, such a feminist says: "see how violent men are"


Feminists are also emasculators|

They will pull something sneaky on a man (and in a way that only the target can see), and when he rightfully gets angry at her, she will say to all: "see, I told you he was like that" (preparing that before-hand with malicious gossip against him)|

Feminists are also masters at *misdirection,* leading a man in one way, and when he gets there, he finds that he comes up empty|


As the Book of Sirach says: "There is scarcely any evil as that of a bad woman|" (Sirach 25:12-25)|



** The Book of Sirach is part of Scripture, of the seven books that the Catholic Church recognizes a valid Scripture, but the Protestants have rejected|

It is an absolutely wonderful book to read|

It has nothing of the fundamentalism of the Protestants|

It can be called the *divine common sense|*

It is advice for every walk of life, and really puts *all* things into perspective|

Get the New American translation, that is the best|

Sirach is found in the "Wisdom" section of the Bible (remember Protestant bibles do not have this)|




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Answer 4

Your argument doesn't make sense. While what you are describing may occasionally happen, generally It's not wives, girlfriends, etc. who insist on men "fighting for their honor," it's our society's unrealistic "macho" standards. Just because something "sometimes" happens, doesn't mean it's the underlying cause. I personally would be PISSED if my husband tried to fight some redneck idiot because of some remark or threat, especially when you can just walk away. Why would I want my husband to risk getting hurt or thrown in jail over something like that? Macho b.s. like that really irks me. And I don't know any women (outside of a trailer park) who WOULD insist a guy fight for them.
As for men going to war to protect "wives, home, etc..." don't be naive. GOVERNMENTS go to war for political reasons, money, land, political ideologies, etc, and it's been that way for a long, long time. We didn't send men to die over in Vietnam to protect our homes here, did we? It could even be argued, that despite 9/11, the current war isn't REALLY about protecting our home front. Read your history on war, go back as far as you like. Protecting "hearth and home" may have occasionally been used as a "rallying cry" to motivate soldiers, but the real reasons GOVERNMENTS go to war are very different.
As for men being more violent...statistics bear this out. Statistically, men ARE more violent than women. You could argue that it's our culture that promotes this, and not that men are inherently so, but you can't ignore it in a discussion like this, yet you seem to be trying really hard to do just that.
And women "cheer their men on" when they are going to war to be supportive of their husbands and sons. If women didn't, they would be criticized for THAT, too. (See Jane Fonda during Vietnam War.)

Answer 5

Hi. You are not the only one who is confusing the notion of excuse with the notion of cause. In your example, the wife is not a cause, but just an excuse, and it has nothing to do with herself. The only actors of conflicts are two men from your example, thus the only responsible ones. And of course, he could think about other ways too, to protect one's physical integrity. However, our inclination to accept an excuse as it is a real cause, to justify our actions, leads to accusing victims, not actors (!!!) as the only responsible for what happened to them. Doesn't this sound absurd? God knows how many excuses we can imagine for many bad things we are able to do: One kills somebody because one didn't like the color of his sweater. Is the sweater a cause of the crime or is it one's wired mind?

Gorgeous Helena from Homer's Iliad, actually was never asked if she wanted to marry Paris and to be a "cause" of the war. Finally, she was brutally raped.

Wars in political sense were leaded by men, since women were not in the position to decide about public and political issues. Furthermore, during the mobilization, nobody asks HER if she is willing to lose her son, brother or husband in the war, because the answer would probably be NO. Why would someone who gives a life be interested in destroying it and why would someone accept to be a victim of war rape?

Answer 6

its not the gender that causes the problem bad people do bad things
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Answer 7

No. If I say to my husband (let's say Hitler for argument's sake). Those jews looked at me lasciviously and it was insulting and why FOR CRYING OUT LOUD can't we have the resources they have in say .. Poland. Resulting in him invading Poland and killing jews....

Those are his actions on his own acting out of free will. He is entirely responsible. I am not responsible for that in the slightest.

Answer 8

Hitler wasn't married.