What do you think of "Pelosi One"? Nancy wants a 757...?

Question

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070207-123706-5963r.htm

Nancy Pelosi apparently does not care at all about Global Warming like she says as she now wants a 757 with a crew of 16 instead of the "little" Gufstream with a crew of 5 that was used by the former Speaker. This 757 will cost you and me $300,000 per trip and she says she'll use it two to three times a week. It will bellow out 10,000 lbs more CO2s than does the Gulfstream per trip. HMM so much for cutting government spending and cutting CO2 emissions. She's no different than the others. The gulfstream will actually go further on a tank of fuel and do it faster...

Edit: Actually prior to 911 the House Speakers used first class seats on regular airlines. Dennis Hastert asked for and recieved the use of the Gulfstream after 911 for security reasons, but only for govt. work. She wants this for personal use as well, for her and her family.

Hmm someone needs to get their “Facts” straight. The Gulfstream will fly about 4,275 miles on a tank of fuel. Depending on what source… here’s a few:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=34#statistics

Or you can look it up here: http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/aircraft_g4.htm

Or here: http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/jetgen.html


The 757 will fly about 4,281 miles on a tank of fuel. Again depending on the source of info. Here’s more:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/pf/pf_facts.html

For a comparison of the two side by side go here: http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft_comparison_detail.asp

Here are the stats:
Gulfstream 757
65,500 lbs 255,000 lbs
581.6 mph 590 mph
4274 miles 4525 miles

For those quoting MSNBC and other irrelevant sources, here's the latest info. on the Gulfstream:
According to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulfstream_V

“The Gulfstream V (also referred to as the G5) originally flew in 1995, was certified in 1997, and was one of the first "ultra-long range" (~6000 nautical miles) business aircraft. Capable of carrying up to 16 people in standard seating configurations, and able to fly up to 6,500 nautical miles (12,038 km), the GV became the longest range business jet ever made at the time of its introduction.”

By the way a nautical mile is 1-1/5 miles so 6500 nautical miles equals 7,800 miles. From New York to LA is only 5000 miles, so what’s the problem? She could fly to New York and half way back on one tank.

Its maximum speed is 600 mph. It's faster and more efficient than the 757. It only weighs in at 65,000 lbs and the 757 weighs 255,000 lbs. Talk about SUVs burning up the fuel...! Hellllo Ms. Pelosi!!!

Answer 1

My issues with this are several:

-- why does she need such a large plane? She's too good to set down and refuel in the heartland of America?

-- A 757 uses tons of fuel and emits piles of pollution... not a very good example to set when you're heading up the Global Warming Brigade

-- Taxpayers will bear the costs of the gas, the plane, and the security for this. It is not right that she and her family get to flit around on this jet.

-- True, she is only to use the jet for govt purposes and cannot use it to fly to a Hillary fundraiser in Louisiana. But then, NONE of them should be using govt vehicles for such a purpose.

-- For the woman who claimed she was going to clear the corruption out of Capitol Hill, I find this to be a complete 180. She should be proudly getting on a Southwest jet to return home, being a woman of the people, a green-wise Congresswoman.

All in all, I find it appalling that we, the people, have to pay for ANY of this garbage. A huge majority of Congressmen are MILLIONAIRES. There is no reason we should be paying for these costs, especially when they earn salaries of $170,000 a year (more than 5 times the average American salary) not mentioning health and other bennies.

Answer 2

Republicans are taking issue with the size of the plane. .

The request for a larger plane by the House Sargeant At Arms was based on the fact that Ms. Pelosi represents the state of CA vs. IL, where Hastert represents. There is a great difference in terms of distance between D.C. and IL vs. D.C and CA. The concern was in refueling stops that would have to be made. The Gulfstream plane Hastert used could fly from D.C to IL and back without having to make a refueling stop. If Ms. Pelosi uses it, it would be able to travel one way non stop ONLY under optimal wind conditions and would therefore need to refuel along the way which is a security concern.
Tony Snow, White House spokesman stated today that said the negotiations over Pelosi's transport have been conducted solely by the House sergeant-at-arms and the Pentagon, with no direct involvement by the speaker or her office or the White House.

It was also to accomodate other members of the CA delegation who will have to pay a fare to travel on it, it would not be a free ride.This also included trips back to see the people who put her in office NOT for personal pleasure.

Mrs. Pelosi's request is not new for a speaker, who is second-in-line in presidential succession. A defense source said the speaker's regular access to a military plane began after the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Answer 3

Nancy Pelosi could desire to take the area holiday back and forth from DC to San Francisco, yet she does no longer have the wonderful to invite, excuse me, no call for, that American Tax Payers %. up the tab. If she have been authentic looking and asked what her predecessor had used, i might say advantageous, yet she is appearing as though she have been crowned Queen. I heard the day in the previous as we communicate that a visit on us for that airplane to take her to SF and are available back might run us approximately $3 hundred,000. a visit, do you elect to pay that? John Edwards is the main disingenuous individual I even have ever seen, his "2 Americas" speech is ridiculous.

Answer 4

Here I honestly used to think that Republicans were patriots and wanted what is best for America, but it is obvious now that they only want to support the United States when their party is in power.

When a critical government official needs additional security spending, they careful examine their voting record first before deciding whether to support it or not?

What is next? Are troops going to have to sign a GOP "loyalty oath" before you issue them body armor?

It is too bad that partisanship and "scoring points" is more important than our national security.

Even the White House agrees: The Speaker of The House of the United States needs a plane with modern anti-terrorist equipment.

Answer 5

"That plane is said to only be capable of reaching San Francisco nonstop under optimal wind conditions." MSNBC.com

She lives on the other side of the country. Hastert was given the Gulfstream because he was only going to Illinois. California's a bit further.

Supposedly, it can be a safety concern when the plane will have to land at the same airport every time Congress adjourns, and she goes back to California. I don't know if it really would be a security risk or not, but on the other hand, I'm not part of the Defense Dept.

Answer 6

Is not right. Pelosi should flight commercial and that is it. I'm a Democrat but I was never for putting Pelosi as House Speaker. Time is proving me right. She is making the Democratic Party look bad and I want this to stop.

Answer 7

Quit spearding lies

FACT: Pelosi’s use of a military aircraft is about security, not “personal accomodation.” It was House Sergeant at Arms Wilson Livingood who initiated inquiries into the aircraft. “I advised Speaker Pelosi that the US Air Force had made an airplane available to Speaker Hastert” following 9/11, Livingood wrote, and “I offered to call the U.S. Air Force and Department of Defense to seek clarification of the guidelines [which governed Speaker Hastert’s use of a plane].”



FACT: Pelosi’s office has already said she “will not use the plane for political travel.”
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FACT: Both the Washington Post and Roll Call have reported that the plane used by Speaker Hastert was too small for Pelosi since it “needs to refuel every 2,000 miles and could not make the nonstop haul to California. ‘The Air Force determined that [Pelosi’s] safety would be best ensured by using a plane that has the fuel capacity to go coast-to-coast,’” a Pelosi spokesperson said.



FACT: Pelosi’s office says “it is up to the Air Force to decide what type and size of plane will be required,” and that “she has never asked for a plane or space on a plane to accommodate ’supporters.’”

Answer 8

You are incorrect sir. The gulfstream will not make it from Wash. to NY on a tank of fuel, and her family will have to pay a fare to fly on the plane. Way to read only half of the information. Is this the best you got. Thousands of Americans are dying and the best sh*t you can come up with to complain about is the Speaker of the House wanting a bigger airplane. Look over here, look at this...don't mind that war with the people getting killed

Answer 9

Security, my Hemorrhoids!
Just a big expensive toy to impress her friends with her importance and power.Give her a bicycle , the GREEN alternative.

Hey, if she's flying 2-3 times a week,when does she work?

Answer 10

This is a great idea. In fact we should probably keep her flying 24/7 to keep her safe just in case anything happens to Bush and Cheney. She is second in line to succeed the president after all and we wouldn't want anything to happen to her!