the "fetus" is a human life that should have a right to live
2007-02-08
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moosey,
I'm sorry but you say a "woman's choice" what about the babies choice?
2007-02-08
02:55:25 ·
update #1
for those who have had an abortion or have been affected by abortion in some way....... God's grace is bigger than anything we face or deal with, look to Him for release :)
2007-02-08
03:04:52 ·
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thanks Altar_Native for the link
****very graphic video... but this is real....a view of abortion for what it really is
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1488943735
pro choice advocates, it may seem like a political view....it's much more than that after you see what really happens when an abortion is performed.
2007-02-08
03:12:00 ·
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Logon17:
It's funny that you should mention the ten commandments....remember the one "thou shalt not murder"
2007-02-08
04:43:06 ·
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Please keep your comments to your self before you offend someone. You are obviously a male and therefore do not know about female choices.
I highly doubt I am a feminist. I am an educated strong, attractive woman with my own opinions. Welcome to the new world.
2007-02-08 02:49:37
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answered by Moosey 5
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So what?
You can't prove that there even is a god, let alone that abortion is angering him. And now i could get into a long debate about how theoretically all life may be entirely pointless if god does not exist and that you are clinging to the belief that there is a god just so you have some personal hope that your life is not meaningless.
I could also argue that prematurely ending something that will end at some point anyway may well be saving that foetus from a life where the parents do not want the child (and thus may well die at a later point in an equally brutal fashion by the parents that would have ended the life to start with) or where the child may be born with defects that would cause said child to have an extrememly poor quality of life.
However, if you want to go down the religious route, Many people think that a human being is created at the time of conception but this belief is not supported by the bible. The fact that a living sperm penetrates a living ovum resulting in the formation of a living fetus does not mean that the fetus is a living human being. According to the bible, a fetus is not a living person with a soul until after drawing its first breath.
After God formed man in Genesis 2:7, He “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and it was then that the man became a living being”. Although the man was fully formed by God in all respects, he was not a living being until after taking his first breath.
In Job 33:4, it states: “The spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
Again, to quote Ezekiel 37:5&6, “Thus says the Lord God to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live. And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the Lord.”
In Exodus 21:22 it states that if a man causes a woman to have a miscarriage, he shall be fined; however, if the woman dies then he will be put to death. It should be apparent from this that the aborted fetus is not considered a living human being since the resulting punishment for the abortion is nothing more than a fine; it is not classified by the bible as a capital offense.
According to the bible, destroying a living fetus does not equate to killing a living human being even though the fetus has the potential of becoming a human being. One can not kill something that has not been born and taken a breath. This means that a stillborn would not be considered a human being either. Of course, every living sperm has the potential of becoming a human being although not one in a million will make it; the rest are aborted. .
God has decreed, for one reason or another, that at least one-third of all pregnancies shall be terminated by a spontaneous abortion during the first trimester of pregnancy and that a number will be terminated after the first trimester. It would appear that God does not have any more regard for the loss of a fetus than he does for the loss of a placenta or a foreskin despite the fact that these were living tissue as the result of conception.
In a number of versions of the bible, one of the commandments in Exodus 20 that was spoken by God to Moses states: “You shall not kill”. According to the Mosaic text, this should read “You shall not murder” since the bible has commandments stating that people shall be put to death for a number of different offenses. Exodus 21:17 states: “Whoever curses his father or mother shall be put to death.” There are other capital offenses in Exodus 21. Of course, the commandment “You shall not kill” is not present in the commandments written by God on the stone tablets. For those who are not familiar with the commandments on the stone tablets that were placed in the Ark of the Covenant, they are enumerated in Exodus 34. The popular ten commandments that are enumerated in Exodus 20 were spoken by God to Moses who then relayed them to his people; they were never written.
There is nothing in the bible to indicate that a fetus is considered to be anything other than living tissue and, according to scripture, it does not become a living being until after it has taken a breath.
2007-02-08 06:16:24
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answered by Jayne-Linda 3
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It's amazing how ignorant most people here seems to be about prenatal development, and it's obvious that they don't want to be educated. The video you provided shows aborted babies at just 7 weeks of age.
As someone mentioned above, the documentary The Silent Scream, show an 11-week-old (FIRST TRIMESTER) unborn child frantically trying to escape the suction instrument, as her mouth opens wide and her heartrate doubles. The documentary is narrated by former abortionist and former head of NARAL Dr. Bernard Nathanson:
http://www.silentscream.org/video1.htm (see part 3)
At just 7 weeks, an unborn child will turn her head away if her cheek is stroked. At 8 weeks, she will open her mouth and pull her hand away if her palm is pricked. The average age of an aborted baby in America is 10 weeks.
For more on prenatal pain perception, see:
http://www.advocatesfortheinnocent.com/fetalpain.html
2007-02-09 12:20:45
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't find what's so shocking about it. Maybe I'm desensitized, maybe i just don't care. But look at the foster home children often time you don't see what's behind closed doors some children are better off not being born, i'm not advocating abortion here, i'm tell the truth, sometimes it's harsh and ugly and you don't wanna face it but at some point you have to. I'm not for or against it, aboriton is murder, eating meat is murder, it's part of life, everyone has choices to make some of those choices are harder and we live them when we make them. Is abortion right, no it's not, espically when you're 16 out having promsicious sex have the got damn baby and deal with life.
2007-02-08 08:34:35
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answered by Gen 4
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I didn't know that and it's disturbing as hell. What gets me is all these women saying men have no say or right to object to a womans choice because its her body. Excuse me but half of that fetus (talk about dehumanizing something) belongs to a man.
I must say I don't have much respect for your choices. First you choose to get laid (97% of you) without birth control without thinking of the baby you will later kill just to chase an orgasm.
Yes I blame the man equally for this but its the womens choice.
You all say its a fetus and can't survive outside the womb until its born so it has no choice in this abortion debate. Premature babies kind of put the lie to that position. So the premie can't survive and isn't alive until 9 months? Or is it because their brain is undeveloped that they have no choice never mind that its developing in a miraculous fashion and will be a lovely child if cared for? Do brain damaged and retarded people lack the same choice of life. Of course not you say. Why not I don't get the nuance. Oh now I'm stupid maybe i shouldn't have any choice over my existence.
I'm truly sorry for all of you who have had abortions and regret it. My wife is one of those. For you who haven't I hope you never choose to. Children are the best blessing we have in this life.
For those of you who choose abortion repeatedly I just don't understand how you can rationalize this away. There is no doubt you are ending a life. Its against the law to disturb an endangered birds nest or egg but you can abort a baby. Its crazy this world we live in.
May God have mercy on our souls.
2007-02-08 04:43:27
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answered by Doug 3
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2016-12-17 05:14:41
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answered by ? 4
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Wow! That is really interesting. So tell me, have you read reports about how rape and incest victims shun contact with people, particularly males, because they feel dirty and used? Do they show videos on that? Abortion is NOT birth control or an easy decision, so would you please stop making women feel that they are monsters who should be berated for not wanting to have a child in those circumstances. Even if the pregnancy occurred in a committed relationship, it is easier for the guys to bail if they are scared than a girl. Maybe it's easier to pass judgment that way...
2007-02-08 10:26:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Actually yes, you can look up a video called "The Silent Scream" which actually shows a fetus in the womb trying to "get away" from the suctioning device used to rip apart its body. It's very disturbing. Go to http://www.youtube.com and type in "the silent scream" and you will find the videos. The videos were made many years ago by a former abortionist who was troubled by the practice he was performing. Also, you can view another video here that shows the results of abortions. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1488943735
As far as this girl who commented about you "being a man" and not having a right to say anything...that's ludicrous. She's a typical feminist. Since when does a baby only become the say-so of the woman? Last I remembered it takes a woman AND a MAN to conceive!
And also, abortion has become a cop-out for people who are involved in pre-marital relationships. When they screw around and get pregnant, abortion is the easy, self-centered way to go. They don't want to take responsibility for their actions and so their baby becomes a "mistake" that they made. True, there are cases where a mother is in danger of health complications...I've heard this before...but every REAL mother I know would risk anything and everything so that her child would have a chance to live. Abortion is self-centeredness.
By the way, these videos are NOT partial birth. Look before you speak.
2007-02-08 02:57:25
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answered by Altar_Native 1
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1% of abortions are performed after the 20th week. 52% occur before the 9th week. i didn't bother looking at your propaganda, but i'm assuming it's not before the 9th week.
if there weren't abortions, there'd be 1.37 million unwanted children a YEAR in the USA that tax money would have to pay for, many with birth defects/drug addictions and high hospital bills.
would you adopt a malformed drug baby? do you want to pay for 1.37 million babies? how would the nation pull that off? even if the mother ended up keeping (rather than adopting out) the baby--over half of the women getting abortions are under 25 yrs old and have a household income under poverty and would end up on welfare & gov't assistance, when they could have potentially become a self-sufficiant memeber of society (gone to school, gotten a job, etc)
when you can take over the growing of a fetus and raising of the subsequent child, then you MIGHT understand.
2007-02-08 03:45:10
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answered by Anonymous
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It sad that in this day in age, we have all this technology and education and we still dont know how to prevent a pregancy(i.e. birth control). When I was in high school, I swear some girls must of thought abortion was a form of birth control, because they had several.
Pro lifer alllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way!
2007-02-09 02:12:46
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answered by InquisitiveMind 4
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how about you keep your **** to yourself?.
You do not have a clue what the girl is going threw when she chooses to have an abortion, would u prefer the child to grow up without a home? without parents that can care properly? not being fed? and a TONE of other stuff.
it isnt your place to be telling people this kind of stuff, stay out of it its not your problem is it?.
2007-02-10 00:27:32
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answered by Anonymous
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