Are the Scotttish & Ulster prehybstrians of Anglo-saxon heritage?

Question

Are the Scotttish & Ulster prehybstrians of Anglo-saxon heritage?
I mean the Catholics are natives right, so the Scottish & Ulster Prehybtrians must be English ancestry right

Answer 1

You are mixing religion, 16th, 17th,18th, and 19th century British politics and the migration of peoples. The Scots are Celtic in origin. The native Irish are Celtic in origin. The "Scots-Irish" were those people moved from the Scottish lowlands to Northern Ireland by the English crown to have more control over Ireland.

Some of the Catholics in Ireland are Anglo-Irish, i.e., English in ancestry that emigrated to Ireland after the wars in the 16th century to claim land or compensation from their efforts to subdue Ireland for the crown. Ironicly the Anglo-Irish would become MORE sympathic to the native Irish in the quest for independence in the 18th-20th centuries. The Ulsters, or Orangemen, would fight against home rule for Ireland, but would have a bigger enemy, the Catholics, no matter if they were Irish or English.

This question could cause a firestorm of prejudicial answers. While my answer is simple, you really need to do a lot of research to untie the Gordonian knot of Anglo-Gaelic relations over the last 400 years. I also feel I must apologize to my Irish and English cousins for my simple answer. By the way, my own heritage is a mixture of ALL of the above groups and religions. I guess that's why my ancestors decided to emigrate from the UK to the US over 300 years ago!!!

Answer 2

It is my understanding that over the years, there has been a lot of inter mingling of the different groups in the British Isles. During the British Civil War, most of the Scots (Presbyterians) were opposed to the Puritans and loyal to the Stuarts. The Stuarts also happened to be very tolerant of Catholics, thus the support of the Irish and highland Scots. The religion issue was just one part of the issues. The Presbyterian Scots were not forcing their views on the Catholics, although they didn't want to live under a Catholic King either. The Puritans were forcing their views on everyone else, but at the same time, were placing democratic reforms in Parliament; albeit, they controlled Parliament. The result was massive immigration from Scotland to Northern Ireland (Ulster) and to the Colonies. After the restoration, the Scots-Irish didn't care for James II either, and supported William of Orange. However, they viewed the new house of Hanover as a foreign government. A great number of the Scots-Irish settled in the Southern Colonies and particularly Appalachia. They had no love loss with King George when the American Revolution broke out. However, the old cultural differences between them and the Puritans showed up as in the cultural differences between the North and South here in America. These cultural differences were one factor that lead up to the America Civil War. Many Southerners today will tell you their ancestry is Irish when in fact it is Scots-Irish and their ancestors came here before the American Revolution. Particullary in the 1740's. May I recomment the book "Cracker Culture" - Celtic Ways in the Old South by Grady McWhiney.

Answer 3

No, they are not. No Scots are Anglo-Saxon. The reason they are Presbyterian relates to the religious problems of the 16th and 17th century and the general religious reformation which was going on across Europe at that time. Their religion bears no relationship to what might be their ethnicity.

Answer 4

No we are of mixed Celtic and Anglo-Saxon/Norman race although our cultural and religious heritage owes more to the latter than to the Gaels. Also many areas of the Gaelic north became staunchly presbyterian-the only remaining group of commited religious followers in Scotland, the Free church is in the Highlands and Islands and is staunchly protestant although many of its members are Gaelic speakers.

Answer 5

The Scots and Ulster Presbyterians are ARYAN, whereas the so-called indigenous Irish belong to the Celts, ( also knows as "Gaels" or whatever) a race subjugated throughout Europe.

You are unlikely to receive any unbiased answers to your question , given the many hatreds engendered by the reformation- still unresolved to this day.

The statement that "No Scots are Anglo Saxon" is at best mischievious and naive, and at worst pure ignorance.
- this being one of the problems with Yahoo answers, of course.

Answer 6

the lowland scots were descended linguistically from a mix of northumbrian old english, old norse and a wee bit of gaelic. anglo-saxon is a bit of a generic term. a large number of peoples from who inhabited the atlantic coast of north west europe spoke various dialects of west germanic and each individual tribe and people brought their dialect with them. racially its a big mix. the celts had mixed with the indigenous people of europe, probably related to basque speakers and the scandanavians had moved across the baltic into poland, lithuania, estonia and latvia and gradually moved west. by the time the germanic people reached where modern germany would be they were a mix of slavs, antii, letts and finns. they were no more racially pure than the celts who were a mixture of central europeans and southern asiatics. the famous germanic teotons and cimbri were in fact a mixed bag of german and celts. when the west german people came to southern scotland the again mixed with the brythonic celts, (welsh speaking), gaelic celts and the ancient indigenous picts. then the vikings put in their pennyworth of both their language and genes. linguistically the scots and their offspring in ulster, are a unique dialect of west germanic, racially they are as mixed up as the rest of us. aryan is a linguistic and cultural term for the indo-europen speakers, not an individual and pure race. aryan/indo-european is the root language that ties together the celtic, germanic, romance, iranian, north indian and tocharian (in western china). aryan is just a romantic name for it. the idea that it is a pure racial group is excessively dumb.

Answer 7

mklee0509 The lowland Scot's weren't settled in Ireland by the English crown it was actually King James Stuart, a Scottish King that started the plantations not the English!!

Theodosius Great answer!