Who was the first african american quarterback to win a Division 1-A NCAA Football Championship?

Answer 1

Willie Thrower led Michigan State to the National Championship in 1952 as a Quarterback. He was also the NFL's first African-American Quarterback.

note: And to answer Dawgmeat17, Willie Thrower is the correct answer. Officially the NCAA does not itself as an organization "award" the national championship. The Bowl Championship Series does, which is a seperate entity from the NCAA. Tee Martin was the first black quarterback since the BCS National Championship system was put into place in 1998. With that being said, if we weren't counting anything since before 1998 then I guess teams like Notre Dame and Michigan wouldn't be Championship Powerhouses like most claim. It's no different then in the NFL before they became the NFL as a complete entity.

Also, I used wikipedia as a reference to who Willie Thrower was if you weren't aware of him. My great grandfather played with him at Michigan State.

AND AFTER READING DAWG'S OWN SOURCE, it is quoted that "The NCAA does not conduct a championship for the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (Division I FBS - formerly Division I-A)" and that "Instead, these teams participate in a national championship system developed by the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) organization. ". Which means the NCAA as an organization doesn't OFFICIALLY crown anyone as a National Champion. The BCS does so and is a SEPERATE organization from the NCAA just as any other organization before 1998. You should read your own sources before quoting them.

What's wrong Dawg? Can't help that a girl knows a little bit about football? And about the whole recognized National Championships, then tell my why, at this link on the NCAA website so they show the list of National Champions dating back to 1869 with the organizations that recognized them ( http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4j3NQDJgFjGpvqRqCKO6AI-YXARX4_83FR9b_0A_YLc0NCIckdFAEuT364!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvUUd3QndNQSEvNElVRS82XzBfTFU!?CONTENT_URL=http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html ).

And the answers to your questions:

First off, I'm assuming you define major bowls as what we now call BCS bowls. Obviously the gimmie is the Sugar Bowl in 2006 after Hurricane Katrina made it unable to play in the Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana so the game was moved to the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Georgia. But what alot of people don't know is that there was just one year that the Rose Bowl was played in Durham, North Carolina. In 1942 it was moved from Pasadena due to the fear from the attack on Pearl Harbor. And if you consider the Outback Bowl a major bowl, the Outback Bowl was originally played in Alabama before moving to Tampa, FL.

And for the bonus, in 1960 Missouri went 7-0 to be defeated 14-0 in the Orange Bowl on Jan 1, 1961.

If you care to continue this football scholarly discussion you can email me at [e-mail] anytime. Impressed yet?

Answer 2

I agreed with sweetie's answer. So I went to the NCAA site and found that the NCAA lists MSU as the 1952 Concensus National Champions. I thought I used to watch college football before 1998. I'll watch it after they switch 1A to playoffs too.

Dawgmeat - I am not a lliar. Pleasec lick on my reference link - it shows championships going back several years. The only things that change is the 'Selecting Organization' which in no case is the NCAA. I have also added a second refernce which is under the domain ncaa.org which declares Michigan State the 1952 National Champs. You will find it on page 77(78 in adobe reader) of the "Official 2006 NCAA Divisions 1-A and 1-AA Football Records Book". If you read the intro to the section a couple pages before it says that AP and UPI selected the national champions in 1952. On page 77, it shows that AP and UPI selected the Spartans. I am not a fan of MSU or the other school from that state 'up north.' I have no interest in this other than truth. I may be a lot of bad things but I am not liar, I am only passing what seems to be legitimate research sourced from both www.ncaasports.com and www.ncaa.org. No need to make this personal.

Dawg - I remember that team. Lincoln Kennedy was an all american tackle. Don James coached my alma mater too, Kent State. The links below list Washington and Miami as national champs for '91. I'd brag about it.

Answer 3

sorry sweetie, but you and your wikipedias answer is wrong. im always amused by people who look answers up, and then answer them as if they have a clue as to what theyre talking about. i could probably think of 100 questions in the next 5 minutes that i know the answer to and sweetie couldnt answer without her good friend wikipedia.

anyway ........ to answer the question CORRECTLY, the NCAA did not award a national championship in div 1A college football until the creation of the BCS, which was in 1998. ALL organizations who handed out national championships before 1998 were NOT sanctioned by the NCAA, therefore their claims of who they thought was the best team meant absolutely nothing to the NCAA. at last check, the NCAA is the governing body that overlooks college football. go to NCAA.org if you dont believe me, ill bet anybody anything that they cant find a single mention of a national champion in div 1A college football before 1998. the first div 1A college football national champion was crowned in 1998, and that team was the Tennessee Volunteers ...... which just so happened to have a black QB starting for them in 1998. the answer to your question is Tee Martin.



ps - faceman ...... youre a liar. i would bet my childs life on it that the NCAA does NOT credit ANY SCHOOL with a national championship in div 1A college football before 1998. to prove you are lying i an now doing what i dont like to do ...... im including a source ..... NCAA.ORG. id consider them a pretty decent source to check with, considering it IS their sport. go to the link (that begins with ncaa.org i might add) and check out Alabama, you will see that the NCAA does not credit Alabama with a single mens national championsip ..... and i do believe football is a mens sport. Alabama claims 12 or so NC's in football, but since the last one was in 1992, the NCAA credits them with ZERO.

learn the facts, THEN post ..... it will save you from looking like a fool.




face ...... then please explain to me why the NCAA does not recognize a single mens national championship for Alabama. i have personally seen Alabama win three AP national championships in my lifetime, but yet the NCAA gives them credit for none. you might find a place somewhere that mentions which champion the most respected polls named each year, but you will find nothing of NCAA recognized national championships before 1998. i went to the University of Washington, graduated in 1991 ..... i would LOVE to say that the Huskies were the 1991 national champions in 1991 according to the NCAA, but i cannot. all they were was the team that was named national champions by 23 of the 32 organizations that awarded national championships in 1991 (the NCAA not being one of the 32). anything you find is merely naming the top two polls at the time, and has nothing to do with the NCAA. besides, this is completely off my point, that was ........ people who dont know a damned thing about the question asked shouldnt answer the question. sweetie OBVIOUSLY had no clue as to the answer .... the fact that she quoted her source of wikipedia is proof of that. im sure qhoever asked the question couldve easily googled the question himself. people spend a few hours on google and wikipedia and all of a sudden they possess doctorates in 5 different fields.


sweet - you have no clue and i wont even respond to the quote you posted, you are nothing more than a google educated person that doesnt know a damned thing about college football. you want to impress me ..... there have been two occasions in college football history where a major bowl game was moved out of its original state, what were the bowl games and why were they moved? good luck googling that one little girl. for extra credit, which div 1A team went undefeated through the regular season shutting out every single opponent, then lost 14-0 in their bowl game. once again, good luck googling that one little girl.

ps sweet, i meant to type recognize .... not award. POOF, there goes your entire argument. im also amused by you claiming Michigan as a national championship powerhouse. off the top of my head, i believe they have been recognized as national champions 5 times (by the college football world, not the NCAA), hardly in Notre Dame, Alabama or USC territory. if the AP polls champion is recognized by the NCAA, then please explain to me why the NCAA claims LSU as the national champion in 2003 instead of USC, who won the AP poll. you dont have a clue.


face - there, now that im done playing ........ ill be serious. first off, im damned proud of the 91 Huskies ..... best defense ive EVER seen, the only defense thats even in the ballpark that ive seen is the 01 Hurricanes. i would easily rank the 91 Huskies as one of the 3 best teams ive ever seen, the other two being the 95 Cornhuskers and the 04 Trojans. going back to the original question of this thread, technically i am correct. the NCAA did not recognize any NC's before 1998, technically. in reality the AP, UPI ( i cant remember off hand which poll the UPI replaced in the 50's ) and the Coaches Poll have crowned champions that are recognized by most of the college football world. the only reason i answered the way i did because it was clear sweetie had no clue about the answer herself, but yet she answered. im sure if i asked her who won the NC in 1930, shed come back with an answer generated from google. fact of the matter is, there was NO SUCH THING as a national champion before 1936 when the AP came out with weekly top 10 polls. in the early stages of college football teams played within their geopraphical regions due to transportion issues at the time and RARELY traveled across country. conference championships were the big thing back then, bowl games did not mean back then what they mean today. polls were voted on BEFORE the bowl games and were not changed after the bowl games. teams like Aabama and USC who claim NC's before 1936 are full of it. the concept of a national champion didnt exist before 1936, the best example of national championship abuse is the USC Trojans. i might be off a year or so, but i believe it was back in 2003 when USC claimed a national championship from the 20's, or something like that. 80 YEARS after a season is played youre going to hang a banner claiming you won the NC, please!!!!!!!! it seems to me you know your college football, my answer wasnt intended to crack on somebody who knows the game, only little girls who have a boyfiend playing jv high school football and a computer who thinks those two components make them an expert.

Go Kent State !!!!!!!!!!! bring back the Dawgfather !!!! ( weve sucked since he left )