what is the relationship between communism and nationalism?

Question

what is the relationship between communism and nationalism?

I'm talking about along the lines of Marxist Theory.

Answer 1

Marx envisioned a world in which class hostility would spread beyond the confines of nations. "Workers of the world unite."
Nationalisms requires a persons allegiance to a nation rather than a social class.

Answer 2

Zero. Communism or the communist party is much like its fascist cousin the infamous NAZI party because both parties believed that loyalty to their own party superceded loyalty to their nation. Just look at what communist and Nazis did when they got in power. They kicked out every other party and only allowed its party to run the country. party members were few but very loyal and put their party ahead of their nation by a long shot. The nation did not exist to them because they were the nation and therefore demanded loyalty from their members as if they were citizens of a country.

Answer 3

I don't think there's any real relationship between communism and nationalism except that everyone agrees to have a communist government because perhaps of necessity, like poverty, etc. As far as the leaders, like the Russians, its perhaps just a reaction to the ills of capitalism, so they assume communism is better. And the idea of collectivism which you might assume as nationalism.

Answer 4

Communism is an extreme form of socialism and nationalism is having pride in one's country. As far as the relationship between the two goes nationalism can be used to promote communism (i.e. socialism is the wave of the future, the Soviet Union is Communist, therefore the Soviet Union represents the future) but it isn't exclusive to it (using Nazism as an example).

Answer 5

Often a communist nation will promote pride in one's country (nationalism) in order to gain support for the economic and personal controls they are about to inflict on the people of that nation. The Chinese Government in recent years has had much success in this area. .

Answer 6

communism (uncountable)

1. A socialist society in which resources are held collectively, under the slogan "from each according to his or her ability, and to each according to his or her need", and in which the State is either abolished because it is harmful or withers away because it is no longer required. Communism is the final aim of revolutionary socialist ideologies such as Marxism and anarchism.
2. A socialist philosophy advocating the form of society known as communism (see above)
3. The ideology of parties that use the term "Communist" in their name, i.e. Leninists and Stalinists.
4. The socio-economic system in countries ruled by regimes that use the term "Communist", i.e. Leninist and Stalinist governments running systems involving tight State control of industry and the populace.
5. A classless, stateless, society in which its members have free access to all resources.
6. (US) A state of affairs perceived as oppressive, overly arbitrary, or totalitarian.
* 1953 (pub. 1997): Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy ed., Hinge of Generations-1953 Transcripts [1]

...he shouldn't...just...[say]..."I -- I am responsible for prosperity,"...that's Communism, Sir, you see.

* 1992: Sylvia Whitman, V Is for Victory: The American Home Front During World War II [2]

Although her elder daughter, Jane, complains, “that's Communism,” Mrs. Hilton rents her own bedroom to a retired colonel.

* 1998: Joseph Martin Hernon, Profiles in Character: Hubris and Heroism in the U.S. Senate, 1789-1990 [3]

...[he] condemned Thurmond's proposal for its “totalitarianism”: “That's Communism....That's China. That's not America.

nationalism

1. The idea of supporting ones country and culture.
2. Supporting a national identity when it does not exist as a sovereign nation.

Example Basque nationalism, Kurdish nationalism.

3. jingoism. The support of one nation interests to the exclusion of others.
4. patriotism.

Answer 7

Communism is a *completely degenerate* materialist system that destroys both individuals and families to feed the *monster* of the system|


Nationalism is a perversion too, but not nearly as bad as communism|

It holds that only one's own nation has value, and that every other nation is inferior in culture and government|

That is based on the vice of pride, rather than seeing that all legitamate nations are different and have their own unique things to offer|


The vice of pride maintains that you alone have value and that the attribution of value to others takes away from you|

Pride tends to suppress the other qua other, as what the other has is seen as detracting from you and your perception that *you alone* are excellent|





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Answer 8

Communism was supposed to override nationalism, but often it succeeded only through being on the same side (as in Vietnam) and failed when the two were opposed (as in Malaysia).