The convening authority (think judge) of the court martial will be a military general, probably an Army general. He will get convicted; it's blatantly against the law for a soldier to advocate revolution against the government. It completely contravenes the whole concept of the civilian control of the military. Don't sweat it. He will be convicted. He's so wrong that even the liberal newsies, who agree with everything he says, think that he's wrong and should be punished.
2007-02-07 13:37:45
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answered by John 4
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ok I'll let the truth come out.
I've been following Lt Ehren even since he stood up. I believe the maximum is 6 years not 4. And he said he would go to Afghanistan and/or any other country. He didn't abandon anybody, he simply made the right decision. If you look into the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) It says "Article 92 - You will obey the orders of the officers appointed over you and the president of the United States." BUT, in a sub-clause it states that you have the right to refuse an order if it is Immoral or Illegal. Well, it just so happens to turn out that by the guidelines of the LOAC (Law OF Armed Conflict) This is an illegal war. So, he, by law, has the right to refuse to support such a thing. His parents are actually very proud of him for standing up. He wants to remain in the military but they are going to court marial him.
His father was in the military, and is now in the peace corps. He is very noble and brave to stand up to a wrong government. I am in the military and I strongly support his decision.
You, sir, are ignorant and stupid for thinking that this war is just. Or, even fair for that matter.
2007-02-07 21:53:39
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answered by Josh F 2
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LOL.. every time the liberals don't like something they try to make it illegal. We are going to pass a law, it is illegal. If they like something they want to make it legal, we will pass a law. It is now Law, blah blah blah. I remember when anal sex was against the law but not any more, now them fags are out of the closet, ITS LEGAL! LEGAL. Same sex marriages too that's a good one! Killing baby's! Abortions. Got to have that legal. Saving Kurds in Iraq, going after terrorists and those who harbor terrorists after America was bombed and over 3000 Americans were killed, well, that war is illegal. right. Of course, because that would mean sacrifice from selfish little minded perverts that don't think about anyone but themselves.
Oh, I agree, I think the Lt deserve to be punished, full 6 years that would be great and a dishonorable discharge. I think our Military should be kept strong. Anything less would weaken our resolve.
2007-02-07 22:53:16
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answered by Dawn 2
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The same way we get justice with a conservative judge. I worked as a court bailiff for quite a while; and I can assure you that contrary to the popular belief the majority of the judges leave their personal political or religious beliefs outside their court room.
I do not support at all what the man did. But if you are such a good Christian, you should not wish bad things to the lieutenant's family and curse anybody. Wishing that anybody would loose his life or limb, even if we do not like him, is not the right thing to do. Remember, God is love, and not hate or curse.
2007-02-07 21:44:17
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answered by paloma 3
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And are YOU fighting in Iraq? How's that going for you?
I don't argue that Watada broke military law and should pay the standard military penalty for it (which indeed will probably be jail time). As Cassandra so beautifully put it, that's the price of civil disobedience. But to call him a coward and say that he and his family should DIE is extreme, especially considering that he HAS been serving in Iraq already, and thus a lot more than most of us. Did that mean nothing?
Turning this into a rant about liberal judges is just confusing, especially considering that he will be tried in a military court.
Oh--and almost *every* organized army used to shoot deserters (not that he ran away; he just stayed and disobeyed orders); it should have nothing to do with his ancestry.
2007-02-07 21:36:54
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answered by Vaughn 6
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I'm on Lt Ehren Watada's side. I heard him and his father speak. He is speaking truth to power. He is right, this is an illegal war and it is wrong. Many other Americans are on his side too. When no one in the government will stand up and say this war is wrong and is unconscionable, then it is his duty as a citizen and soldier of this nation to do so. You do realize that every one of our troops are subject to going to trial in the world court under the laws and rules of the Nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity for this illegal war. God Bless him and his family.
BTW, the trial was deemed a "mistrial" today by the judge. It will come back up in March. But the Government has a very weak case against him.
2007-02-07 21:42:26
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answered by Anonymous
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You are sick and very mean spirited. no one is in harms way with this guy... that is how a judge makes his decision.
He should have weighed this out prior to his military commitment however he appears to have made a mistake and misjudged himself... now on the other hand if he is doing this for political gain... he is wrong and should be in the brink. It depends where his heart really is. Look, if he is so against the war... i certainly would not want him in the same platoon as my father, my husband, my brother, my son- get him out of the way of being a cause of one of our soldiers being harmed.
I am 100% pro military and grew up for 22 years around the US Air Force.
2007-02-07 21:38:45
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answered by lindasue m 3
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I'd prefer a Conservative judge. That way, I can have Habeus Corpus suspended at will, just like Gonzalez recently suggested they were allowed to do in front of Congress.
If you are able, try and get a copy of the Constitution. Its a good read, and you certainly can't find someone at FOX News to detail it to you. I believe theirs have corrections in red in.
PS - I know you have no clue what Habeus Corpus is, thus this answer is lost on you. I wrote the comment for people that actually understand the Constitution is law.
2007-02-07 21:37:11
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answered by Read the Constitution once 1
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He said he'd have no problem fighting in Afghanistan. He only has issues with fighting a war that Bush blatantly lied about (remember WMDs?) on many occasions. So send him to Afghanistan where he's got much more of chance of getting killed then he would sitting in some jail in the US. Do you want him dead or not?
2007-02-07 21:37:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Mistrial just declared!!!!
He already went to Iraq once. Obviously, he's a very brave man to stand up for his conscience. Look how much abuse he's taking from you because he no longer wants to kill innocent people. He may need to go to jail, as that's the price of civil disobedience. The truth is, he's one of the only American soldiers fulfilling his duty under the Nuremberg precedents.
look at the crimes our govt is committing -
The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then
distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it
and how it was being spent.
The staggering scale of the biggest transfer of cash in the history of
the Federal Reserve has been graphically laid bare by a US congressional
committee.
2007-02-07 21:34:37
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answered by cassandra 6
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