Does anyone think Pete Rose got screwed out of the hall of fame, without him the hall is a joke, anyone agree?

Answer 1

I agree and the Hall was the one that screwed him as MLB has no say in what goes on in the Hall. The Hall changed the rules to keep Rose out.

On February 4, 1991, the Hall of Fame voted to formally exclude individuals on the permanently ineligible list from being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Rose is the only living member of the ineligible list. The Hall changed this later in the decade, and players on the ineligible list can be considered by the Veterans Committee in the first year after they would have lost their place on the Baseball Writers Association of America's ballot. Under the Hall's rules, players may appear on the ballot for only fifteen years, beginning five years after they retire. Had he not been banned from baseball, Rose's name could have been on the writers' ballot beginning in 1992 and ending in 2006.[2] He would have been eligible for consideration by the Veterans Committee in 2007, but did not appear on the ballot

Answer 2

Pete Rose did a few things wrong -
1) He bet on baseball
2) He bet on baseball while a Major League Manager!
3) He admitted this in a book
4) He only needed to come out and admit these things before the book, and Bud would have re-instated him, but he was too hard headed.
5) The Hall of Fame is a joke anyway. When Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn are not voted in at 100%, then there are problems.

Answer 3

The hall of fame is a Joke anyway, Pete Rose or no Pete Rose. I would have more sympathy for the "He bet on baseball" argument IF the rest of the players in it were exemplary citizens off the field. Hardly. Tris Speaker was a KKK member, he's in. Cap Anson almost singlehandedly kept blacks out of baseball for more than 50 years, he's in. Ty Cobb was probably the biggest troublemaker in the history of the game off the field, he's in. Lots more examples I could give you. We are not awarding the Nobel Peace prize here, folks, the key question should be did what somebody do OFF the field cause their teams to lose games ON it. Well Joe Jackson, yes. Pete Rose NEVER gave less than 100%. But the Hall of fame has never "gotten it" anyway.

Answer 4

The Baseball Hall of Fame is a place of honor. It is supposed to be about more than just statistics. It is supposed to be about who the person was on and off the field. Pete Rose was a great baseball player, no doubt about that. He was as aggresive as they come, had a heart and passion to win like a lion, and no question was a phenominal batsman. But Rose bet on a game he was playing. Rose threw away his honor when he tried to make a cheap buck.
I know what your thinking, this is a one sided argument because guys like Ty Cobb played exactly the same way, and even was accused of gambling. I think that baseball needs to take a good look at how consistant they are being with everything. I think that is going to be the whole problem with the steroid era, is consistency. If we let one guy who used steriods in, then we have to let all who put the stats up in. In my opinion, anyone who cheats or gambles on the game while playing the game should not be awarded a place of honor in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Answer 5

It's the other way around, my friend. Pete Rose screwed baseball!! He does not deserve to be in the hall of fame. He broke the rules on gambling and, even worse, lied about it until he was caught!! He's a bum.

Chow!!

Answer 6

Hell Yes. Pete Rose is an All-time great. I mean c'mon, they named the head first slide after him. Children are probably still calling it the Pete Rose and they will be for years after he dies. If they let that steroid freak Barry Bonds in and not Pete, the Hall of Fame is a joke.

Answer 7

At first I did because I grew up a Reds fan as I am from Dayton, OH a few miles from Cincinnati. But then when he didn't come out and admit it I became skeptical. Rose bet on baseball. Joe Jackson has been banned from baseball due to betting even though a court found him not guilty. Landis banned him 80 plus years ago because of the cardinal rule that you do not bet on baseball. Rose I hope does get to the hall of fame but if Jackson doesn't get in Rose shouldn't.

Answer 8

Yes he got screwed. Betting on his team never affected his play, and its not there aren't tons of pro atheletes who never get in trouble with the law. If breaking the law is keeping people out of the game, how come so many can go to jail after the season and then come back and play. Baseball is wrong to keep one of the top 5 players of all time out of the HOF. How can Mark McGuire be eligible after everything that he has done, but Pete Rose can't. That is ridiculous, with all the issues facing the game today, Pete Rose wouldn't even be noticed, he'd simply be another pro athelete who was sent to jail for a couple of months.

Answer 9

This is about the most commonly asked baseball question on here. Nonetheless, it deserves an answer.

Simply put, every MLB clubhouse has Rules of Conduct prominently displayed. At the top of the list is "No betting on baseball." It doesn't say "No betting against your team," it says "No betting on baseball." There is no gray area there. You bet, you get caught, you're gone.

Rose has admitted he bet on baseball. It took him about 14 years to admit it, but he did admit it. I once questioned whether the allegations were true, but hearing it from the horse's mouth has removed any lingering doubt in my mind.

As a result of his behavior he is also on baseball's Ineligible List. You do not give someone the highest honor in their profession if they are banned from making a living in that profession because they broke clearly stated, widely understood rules. That makes no sense. Do you honor a doctor with a lifetime achievement award if he lost his license for malpractice? Of course not. Rose's situation is no different.

Look, Pete Rose WAS a great player, easily a Hall of Fame caliber player. There can be no denying that. But unless the powers that be remove Rose from the Ineligible List and reinstate him into the game, he should not be put in the Hall of Fame. If they do reinstate him, he should go as soon as possible afterwards, but not before.

Answer 10

I think that he did get screwed out of the Hall of Fame. The voters judge him on character yet there are Hall of Famers who don't exactly have good character. He may have gambled but it was away from the field. He is the all time leader in hits. How can you not have him in the Hall of Fame when he is the all time leader in hits? They should just put him in already before he dies.