Yeh but remember the liberals asked the President to change strategies in Iraq..,he has and they want to b*i*t*c*h about that..,no matter what happens,the libs will b*i*t*c*h..,
2007-02-06 05:13:35
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answered by jnwmom 4
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You state two different goals: victory over those that threaten us and victory over adversaries. There is a strong difference.
If someone threatens us, that does not mean they are going to attack us. Please click on the link in the source to see how it is that defense based on threat does not justify violence...in an American court of law.
If someone attacks us, that does not mean we should attack them. One need only refer to numerous people on death row to see that, in a court of American law, an attack does not justify a counterattack.
Also, your terms are vague. "Victory" for one does not mean victory for another. That is, your idea of victory might be gaining Conservative control in Congress. Pat Robertson's idea might be eliminating all but Conservatives in Congress. (My idea is eliminating all Conservatives AND Liberals...rock the Independent)
And you are forgetting one important point. Even if there is some crazy way around the legal system that allows the entire military to break the laws of its nation by attacking another nation for an attack on its own, you don't include "victory" over the Taliban. Iraq is not Taliban. Iran is not Taliban. North Korea is not Taliban. Taliban is evading the "pressing" U.S. forces everyday.
"Pessimistic individuals may quote the English translation of the Latin phrase, si vis pacem, para bellum--if you desire peace, prepare for war. But I strongly disagree. Real peace will conquer war." Stanley Williams, Blue Rage, Black Redemption, p. 345
2007-02-06 13:25:36
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answered by fuzzinutzz 4
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uh... we won... Saddams dead... war is over...
it's all a totally botched job of nation building now... and if you mess up nation building... then the people will get mad and try to fight back...
and "victory over our adversaries" may or may not be necessary for our very survival... I mean do you really think syria poses a threat to the entire survival of the U.S.?
if you do, you've VASTLY overestimated syria... sure it may be nice to get rid of them... but they stand no chance to threaten our very survival in almost any possible way anyone could imagine...
2007-02-06 13:16:27
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answered by Anonymous
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So we beat people up now and try diplomacy later. I heard or read somewhere (The Bible) where we should turn the other cheek. Bullies are taken down by the nerds. The Romans lost to the people of Gaul (today's France and Germany) whom they considered mere barbarians and ill equipped to defeat the most powerful army on Earth. The "barbarians" whipped Roman bootie and took names. Who was patriotic? Romans or Barbarians?
If we do not study and understand history it will repeat itself and we could be on the dirty end of the stick this time.
2007-02-06 13:18:36
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answered by Anonymous
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Another right-wing nationalist drunk on the liberal bashing that 70% of America is embarrased by.
Your blackmail is unbecoming. "Victory" is something Bush claimed was in his grasp YEARS AGO.
"Major combat operations have ended"--2003
Nope!
You want victory at this point? COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN.
Smile!! =)
2007-02-06 15:29:28
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answered by Cut The Crap 2
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It's reality check time again.
Iraq was never a threat to us. Ditto N. Korea, Iran, and Syria.
Fear, lies, and ignorance are the three pillars upon which conservatism is built.
2007-02-06 13:13:51
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answered by chimpus_incompetus 4
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Yes we can all agree that we want victory in Iraq. But we can't all agree if was can achieve victory.
2007-02-06 13:02:40
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answered by Take it from Toby 7
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This is the mentality of the vassal ,which strives to attain glory through battle .
2007-02-06 13:16:29
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answered by -----JAFO---- 4
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We liberals certainly want victory over all countries that threaten us. Unfortunately, though, that didn't include Iraq.
2007-02-06 13:03:28
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answered by tangerine 7
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I am puzzled by your rant.
Victory would be nice, if it were feasible. But one can't win a war against religious fanatics. That was proved in Vietnam.
2007-02-06 13:05:38
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answered by volleyballchick (cowards block) 7
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