This tank is severely overcrowded and your fish will die if you don't make some changes. Shubunkins are goldfish, so I'm assuming what you mean when you say 2 goldfish, you mean 2 fancy goldfish. So, first off, goldfish cannot be kept with freshwater tropical fish because goldfish do best in water with a temperature of around 70 degrees while tropicals do better with water around 75-80 degrees. In addition, goldfish are high waste producers and make the water environment very difficult for tropicals to live in. Next, you cannot even keep fancy goldfish with the slim body goldfish, i.e., the shubunkin. Shubunkins and koi can be kept togther, however. So, this is the deal. You need one 20 gallon tank, minimum, for your fancy goldfish, and plan on getting a 40 gallon for them when they grow larger than 4 inches each. So, you might as well just get a 40 gallon to start with. Next, you need a separate tank for your 2 gouramis and 3 tiger barbs. The rule for tropicals is 1 inch of fish per 1 gallon of water. Allowing for full growth of these fish, you will have about a maximum of 12 - 17 inches, so they could stay in the 20 gallon you have now and be perfect. Then we come to the shubunkin and koi. Shubunkins can grow to 12-16 inches. Koi can grow to 3 feet. These two really, really need to be in a pond, but if that is just not an option, i.e., you don't have a yard, then you will need an aquarium that is about 120 gallons minimum and preferably more. You need to do a lot of reading and research on fishkeeping. Hopefully you haven't bought these fish yet, but if you have, you need to start thinking about what you're going to do with them, i.e., keep them and buy more aquariums or give them away. And, please, don't flush them. Please. Good luck to you!
2007-02-06 05:28:02
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answered by Venice Girl 6
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Yes, Goldfish and koi are coldwater fish. Tiger barbs and gouramies are tropical fish, requiring much warmer temperatures. Assuming when you say a two foot tank, you mean a 10-15 gallon, that won't work at all. Using the inch of fish per gallon rule, three full grown tiger barbs are 7 inches put together. 2 gouramies are 8 inches, 1 shubumkin is around 3-5 inches, and koi get around 2-3 feet. That's like around 36 inches long in 24 inches of tank. It might just be a little cramped. Do you already have all of them in the tank together? If you're thinking about getting them, don't. If you already have them together, try getting someone to take the koi and the shubumkin. And you should make a choice between the gouramies and the tiger barbs.
2007-02-06 08:10:37
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answered by Jacob 2
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Yes, you will.
A 2 foot tank is either 15 or 20 gallons, which isn't much.
Your goldfish will outgrow that tank in short order. They are POND fish and can grow to 12-18", and they are poop machines.
Same goes for the shubunkin, although those are a little smaller so if you had no other fish in the tank you could probably keep the shubunkin.
The koi will rapidly outgrow that tank. Koi can grow longer than 24". They need hundreds and hundreds of gallons.
The 2 gouramis and tiger barbs would be fine in the tank (with NO other fish), but you'd have to get a few more tiger barbs - if you have only 2 of them, they will be more aggressive towards the gouramis. They will, however, need a heater set to 77F because they are tropical fish, whereas the goldfish are COLDwater fish.
2007-02-06 05:09:10
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answered by Zoe 6
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Well you have all cold water going on there and there shouldn't be a problem. However your Koi will eat any babies your guramies or barbs have.
your tank seems fine for now, however your gold fish, shubunkin and koi will all quickly out grow your tank. These are classified pond fish which means the farse of 1" per gallon doesn't come close to applying. These fish need 1 sq. foot of SURFACE water per inch of fish. Your Koi can easily grow to 3' within the first year. You also may want to keep an eye on your nitrate and ammonia levels in your tank
2007-02-06 05:03:28
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answered by danielle Z 7
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Okay well for one thing, the whole, "if you put them with any fish they'll fight." That's not true. It may apply some fish, like any long finned fish like Angels. And yes, they will fight if you put them with their own species unless if it's a female and both are ready to spawn. Since you've got Tetras, and Barbs, they will get along with them. I have a male Beta with Tetras, Barbs,Danios, Plecos,and Corydoras. The Barbs tend to be a bit nippy at them but mine just stopped after i let him in the tank with the other community fish. Yes, the Beta can eat the tropical flakes,too. I asked a pretty similar question about that. The Beta food is just higher in protein. But, do still give him some of his own food every now and again. You should get some bloodworms or brine shrimp for them. Give it every so often as a treat, plus, if your tetras might be a male and a female,the bloodworms will make the females pack full of more eggs. Beta fish aren't as aggressive as you think! They're a good addition to a nice and peaceful community tank. Hope this helped you!! =D
2016-05-23 23:50:40
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, not only because the fish are too big, but because those fish produce so much ammonia that the tank water will build up toxins every day. You need to bring those fish back to the store. They'll be lucky to die quickly. Tiger barbs also nip other fish and can kill the others.
2007-02-06 07:42:01
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answered by bzzflygirl 7
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The goldfish should not be kept in tropical conditions, as they will "burn themselves out" & get stressed, making them susceptable to disease. Koi are definately not suitable for a tank as they grow so large. The tiger barbs are liable to nibble at the Shubunkin's fins & tail.
2007-02-06 06:58:45
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answered by ispooky2 2
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Yes it will the goldfish and the koi are going to get way too big for that tank.
2007-02-06 05:33:52
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answered by ChristaanM 2
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Most sources will tell you to base the number of fish on the gallons of water the tank can contain. A common measure is one inch of fish per gallon. This is based on adult size not the size when purchased. Koi are pond fish so you will have problems with a small tank.
2007-02-06 04:52:14
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answered by Anonymous
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For one you have too many fish in your tank, your koi will outgrow your tank.
2007-02-06 05:53:13
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answered by Carrie G 5
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