Can anyone find a loop hole to this argument?

Question

Premise 1: If you eat lunch at Douglass Cafe, you will get sick.
Premise 2: You eat lunch at Douglass Cafe.
Conclusion: You will get sick.

Premise 1: If you eat lunch at the Douglass Cafe, you will get sick.
Premise 2: You eat lunch at the Douglass Cafe
Conclusion: You will get sick


the premises must be true! you have to both eat lunch there and get sick. Find a loop hole with those constraints.

Answer 1

The loophole is this;

Premise 1; you stated the word "if" you eat.

Premise 2; you stated "you eat lunch" as definite.

Answer 2

Not without playing with words in the fact pattern, which may not be allowed. For instance, "lunch" can have a double meaning.

I.e., Lunch can be lunch food off the lunch menu, or it can simply refer to the meal between breakfast and dinner.

Thus, you can eat lunch (by eating during the lunch hour), without eating lunch (order off the breakfast menu instead).

Or another way to put it (in reverse):
1) If you eat lunch (the meal between breakfast and dinner) at Douglass Cafe, you get sick.

2) You eat lunch at Douglass Cafe. (Order off the lunch menu at dinner).

3) You do not get sick.

Answer 3

I got the message not to eat at Douglass Cafe because I will get sick so I am not going to eat there.

Answer 4

I think Obama nailed a great ambiguity.
To better illustrate the problem of ambiguity, consider this:
Nothing is better than consensual adult relations.
Self gratification is better than nothing.
Self gratification is better than consensual adult relations.
The problem is that "nothing" in the first sentence is different from "nothing in the second, so there is no syllogism.

To apply to your example:
You may also claim "eat... at Douglass Cafe" can be simililarly ambiguous, either meaning you are consuming food at that location, or that you order food from that establishment:

"If you eat lunch at Douglass Cafe [order food from their lunch menu], you will get sick."
"You eat lunch at Douglass Cafe [you bring food from home to eat at their outdoor bench]."
"You do not get sick"

Answer 5

#1 IF, not you are
and as far as you will get sick....of course you will get sick. But that doesn't mean it was from the cafe. Whose to say you weren't gonna get sick anyway? 24 hour virus or something. Also with #2. You eat, you get sick. Whose to say that you weren't carrying a bug around within you before you ate there? Maybe something is going around the cafe but is not necessarily coming from the food. Maybe it's a worker. But you think it's the food cause everybody is getting sick from going there and usually when you go to a cafe it is to eat. Right?

Answer 6

Yes ...Don't eat at the Douglass Cafe.

That why no one argues about the conclusion cause no one will get sick.

Answer 7

I see no loophole. A bag lunch would make you as ill as an ordered meal.

Answer 8

"If" doesn't mean you "did"....