Can you prove to me that the Palestinians are the original owners of Israel and that the Jews stole the land?

Question

Please, do not be rude and provide historical evidence.

Answer 1

Historical facts and evidence are certainly "the devil" to anyone who believes in the myth of "the Palestinians".

The original Philistines (Palestinians) were a Greek people who lived around the area of Gaza. They were a violent cult who practiced human and child sacrifice. The Jews brought civilization into the land of Canaan, but they never quite vanquished the evil from the land.

"Philistine" comes from the Hebrew root "to invade".

Today's "Palestinians" are Arab Muslims (not Greeks) who have lived in the area less than 100 years. They migrated into Israel from various parts of Araby (mainly Egypt) to benefit from the opportunities created there from the Zionist project to bring the land back to life.

Interesting thing is - they do bear striking resemblance to the ancient Philistines -- their cruel nature, hatred, practice of human sacrifices, etc. Like the behavior of mankind before the flood.

In fact, the flood was the result of mankind's sin of "Hamas" which basically means "unrestrained violence".

These Arabs in the Holy Land seem to be spiritual inheritors of the Philistines.

Answer 2

Well, it is true that the peoples of whom the *original* Palestinians (Philistines) were one tribe lived in Canaan before the Israelites arrived. In that sense one could make the claim that Israel 'took' the land from them; bearing in mind that the idea of 'stealing' land meant little in an age when conquest and genocide were widely accepted means of foreign policy.

Palestine ceased to exist as a nation about 500 BC, but the people remained, eventually blending into the general population. These were some of the 'Gentiles' spoken of in the Bible, who followed many faiths and no longer had a single national or cultural identity. Israel survived until 70 AD when the Second temple was demolished. The difference is that Israel maintained a cultural identity even after its people were scattered. When the area was conquered by Muslim invaders, both local Jews and Arabs were forcibly converted or fled (those who weren't butchered, that is); after 50 generations or so, the distinction between these groups has been lost.

The people who call themselves 'Palestinians' today are a political fiction created by the Arab League as an instrument for the destruction of Israel; no such national identity existed at the time of the 1948 UN mandate. They undoubtedly include descendants of the 'original' Philistines, as well as every group which has lived or passed through there for the past 2500 years.

Genetic studies have shown that many 'Palestinians' are almost identical to the descendants of Jews who fled the area centuries ago, which would make it at best a geographic label rather than a cultural one. In that sense both modern groups are 'Palestinian' and you can't very well 'steal' from yourself. Whatever they may have been once, they are now one people divided by history.

Answer 3

Neither group has lived in that land full time. You can't go back far enough in history to know without going to the bible and some choose to not agree with it.
Jews were there certainly as far back as about 1750 bc.. the most recent people that really show any relationship possibly to palestinians of today is when the assyrians inviaded the area in about 720 bc.
Those are pretty clear in my study of it.

But that doesnt matter to most. Palestine was never accepted by the world as a state or a country.
Palestinians would be fine if they didnt get kicked out of Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon... cause trouble everywhere you go but blame Israel for your woes.

I am not saying Israel has been pure either. But there sure is alot of anti zionist anti semitism going around... the whole picture is that both have perpetuated trouble.

Answer 4

The Jewish tribes did not originate in Palestine, which was occupied by many tribes when they came. I suggest your read the Old Testament, to see how many tribes the Israelites had to fight in their entry to the area from Egypt only comparatively few centuries BC, and their later travels through what we now call the Middle East. Then read ancient archaeological history of the area. Then read modern history, both political and religious, from about 1840 onwards, including the works of the American Prof. Bush (an antecedent of the George Bush's who proposed an Israeli State), influenced like Lord Balfour by the ideas of the British Israelites (who were not Jews but fundamentalist believers in Armageddon) and others. The modern Palestinians may not ALL be direct descendants of the original owners of that land (The Canaanites etc), but most would be, to some degree at least ... and the Jews are certainly not, both as relatively late-comers BC, and precisely because of their marriage laws and ancient religious edicts against marrying into other tribes. If you particularly study the development of modern Israel after World War 11, you will see that the Jewish migration pre-empted any agreement with the resident population through Britain which held the administrative mandate (Jewish terrorism in fact sent the British packing); that the migration was illegal at that time; and that the incoming Israelis practiced ethnic cleansing to take over Palestinian land and property. After the holocaust all this is understandable, and was politically tolerated out of public sympathy and Western strategic interests in the area -- but the pretence is not, and nor is the Israeli Government's treatment of Palestinians ever since. As a people who long suffered persecution, it is sickening to see a Jewish state persecuting others, especially on racial grounds. The extremists on both sides are stupid and deplorable, but Palestinian resistence to increasing occupation and racial discrimination is only to be expected - and further grossly stimulated by Israeli policies. If you think that is rude, I'm sorry, but read the history - not the propaganda. "Original" ownership is anyway beside the point, as it is in USA Australia and other places - unless USA wants to give the land back to the Indians. What matters is a fair and sustainable agreement on two viable and equal States now - and all that leads to or derives from that, including peace, autonomy, and reasonable prosperity for both. That is unlikely to happen while US and others tilt the scales unfairly in their own political, ideaological, and short-sighted percieved economic interests. We all have urgent enough problems with climate change, threatening life on Earth, without stirring the fundamentalist Islamic pot, and others!

Answer 5

the two sides are at fault. My grandparents are Palestinian. i in my opinion have took the two sides arguments into attention. The palestinians (that have resided in Palestine for 1000's of years if i'm going to declare so) should have their own state. So do the Jews. besides the undeniable fact that, the two sides are to obdurate to cooperate with one yet another and are available up with a logical answer. think of roaming Europe for 1000's of years in seek of a house? think of residing able you be attentive to and love for generations, and without warning being taken over, and given constrained rights? The Jews have been dealt with horribly, and everybody acknowledges that. besides the undeniable fact that, there is not any reason to handle Palestinians like airborne dirt and dirt and seize them interior the West economic company/ Gaza strip. The Palestinians and Israeli's might desire to set aside there differences, understand that maximum of them have the comparable roots, and give up being so no longer easy HEADED ( the two sides are infamous for being somewhat obdurate), and set aside their delight. that's the only thank you to discover a answer.

Answer 6

During the ancient bible period, this region was referred to as Canaan and was the home of several small nations such as the Canaanites, the Hethites, the Amorrhites, the Pherezites, the Hevites and the Jebusites, who lived in the ancient cities of Jericho, Megiddo, Sidon and others. Later, most of this region was conquered from these small nations by the Hebrews who settled in the region and divided it among the 12 Israelite tribes, who later were merged into one united Kingdom of Israel.

Answer 7

IN reply to Grazi kid, it was never promised to the Jews. You should check your bible again my friend, for if you do you will see that it says that the promised land was promised to the sons of Abraham. One of Abraham's sons is Ishmal, the forefather of all Arabs. 99% of the time an Arab will never use hte biblical argument, but when they do they will use that passage (keep in mind that this information I have just given you is NON DEBATABLE, look at it in the bible). And if the asker of this question wants more information on this particular subject feel free to email me. You can get me through here. I am a political scientist and have many works and papers on this topic.

Answer 8

First you would need to establish a DNA record of What a Palestinian is.

At the moment a large portion of the population is nothing more than young Arabs that are there for recreational violence and the chance to shoot a Jew.

There are Egyptians records of bandits living in Gaza 4000 years ago. But who are they and what is their DNA. Giving all of the land between Jordan and the Sea to the decedents of thieves is tantamount to giving the US treasury to the decedents of the great train robbery.

Go big Red Go

Answer 9

Of course not. Can you prove that the Jews are the original owners?

Answer 10

It was originally the land of Canaan, a melting pot of ethnic groups whose descendants are the modern day Palestinians. They were later conquered by the nomadic Hebrews. The Hebrews actually originated in the area of modern day Turkey and are more ethnically related to modern day Armenians and Kurds.