I ask again...can i get an african dwarf frog???

Question

Ok so i have a 10 gall aquarium......right now i have two goldfish...a black moor.....sumkind of fantail thing...aka...fancy goldfish...and an algea eater thing.......i was gona buy one of those real little frogs that live in the water...i think they are called african dwarf frogs.....but will it jump out of the hole where my filter is...since it is kinda open back there!!

SERIOUS ANSWERS PLEASE!!!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

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58 minutes ago
P.S.
I can get rid of a goldfish or two if u think they will be over crowed...is this nessary???

41 minutes ago
P.S. S.
Shut up about the tank being too small....i jus got the 10 gal...iv had the 2 goldfish and the black moor for a year now in a 3 gal....so i htink they r fine!!!

Gimme some GOOD answers!!!

Answer 1

I know you think your fish are fine, but they aren't. Fish are masters at acting healthy until they are just too sick, and goldfish are very hardy.
The best thing you could do for all your fish would be to get rid of the goldfish and the algae eater. All of those fish are not suitable for anything smaller than 30 gallons, although you could probably get away with keeping one of the goldfish in your 10 gallon tank.

Even if your tank was large enough, you could not keep an african dwarf frog and goldfish together. For starters, a goldfish would eat the frog and second, goldfish are COLDwater fish, meaning they need temperatures of about 70F, whereas dwarf frogs are from warm areas and they need water at 78-80F.

Frankly, your tank is much better suited to dwarf frogs than goldfish and algae eaters. Get a heater, some tetras and a couple platies or a dwarf gourami, and a few african dwarf frogs or something like that.

There is a risk that they will find their way out of the tank; plug the hole with some tinfoil.

Answer 2

I lost all 4 of my frogs, found the little guys dried up on the bottom of my stairs on the same day. The little buggers found the only spot I hadn't covered, small spot too! Where there's a will there's a way! Too true.

Seriously though, the tank really is too small for that many fish, whether you want to hear or not. The ammonia level from the waste will kill five fish of that size in a 10 gal. Get rid of the goldfish if you can, and just make sure the frog can't get out, cause it will. Think like a frog!!!

You also might want to look into a larger tank if you like having more fish, and you have the room. I was surprised that my 80 gal was easier to maintain that my 10 gal. And my 45 gal was great too except for my little froggies escape plans.

Good luck!

Answer 3

Honestly, you shouldn't ask a question if you don't want a REAL answer. And the REAL answer to your question is NO WAY. 1 goldfish is too much for that tank. It may be fine now, but it's not good for the fish. They are not going to be happy. It's like torturing them. Look at it this way, sure you could probably live in a 5 ft by 5 ft room your whole life, but would you want to? It's irresponsible to ignore the fact that you have inadequate conditions for your fish and to yell at people who are trying to help, not really you because obviously you don't care, but your poor fish. Take those poor creatues back to the pet store adn get some fish that belong in a 10 gallon. white cloud mountain minnows are fun, and they school. You can get some platys or mollys and they are colorful, pretty and stay small enough. Goldfish get big and are just too messy for such a small tank. You think they are fine, but they're not. You can have plenty of veyr interesting fish that will live long and be happy in that tank. Cory catfish are another option. Once you decide on a more proper fish for you tank, then think about getting the frog. Unless you want to waste a lot of money torturing fish untill they die and then replacing them...

I too had a black moor in a small tank when I was a child. Poor thing. He didn't last long.

Also, google aquarium fish or something similar and read up on the different types before you go to a pet store and pick one up. NEVER buy a fish without knowinig what it is and how big it gets. You CAN take the fish you have back to the pet store. You may not get money, but you may get store credit towards purchasing more suitable fish for your aquarium.

None of us are trying to be mean, we are honestly concerned about the health and well being of your fish. If you want to be successful in this hobby, it would be good to listen to some of us.

Answer 4

well...i don't think this is the answer you want to hear...but no, I wouldn't. Even though your goldfish may be able to handle increased ammonia levels right now, it may harm to african dwarf frog eventually as they are amphibians and more vulnerable to toxins in the water.

Also, they eat different things. Goldfish need a lot of vegitation in thier diet, whereas frogs need higher amounts of protien. Goldfish are greedy eaters and may gobble up the food before the frog gets to it. This could lead to liver problems and bloating in your goldfish and starvation in the frog.

If you still have that three gallon, you could get a 25 watt heater and a whisper 3-i mini filter and set up a froggy paradise though! It would still be a little small, but it will be sufficient for them until you decide to upgrade the golds and put the frogs in the 10.

Happy fishy keeping...I hope you find a way to keep your frogs.

Oh, and yes, a tight lid is good. My husband used to keep these frogs as a kid and had a few jump out of his 20 gallon. keep the water level low enough so they can't climb onto the lip and you should be fine.

Answer 5

I've had one. There is one thing you need to know about those tiny little frogs. In less than a couple years you will have an 8 inch frog and no fish. Trust me. When I got him he was smaller than a quarter. When he died he almost stretched the entire length of a 10 gallon tank.

They happen to be voracious eaters! I used to actually have to feed mine goldfish in the end. He'd down half a dozen and they would all be gone in no more than a week.

While it's small I wouldn't be all that concerned about it jumping out so long as the only opening is that small part.

Answer 6

I had a betta with a little frog, in a larger type tank with good filtration system. They did okay, even though bettas are notoriously and violently territorial. SO I'd assume laid back goldies wouldn't be a problem. The problem was the frog threw off the Ph of the water, and I couldn't keep it clean enough. Sadly, and worst of all, froggy died torn to bits after being sucked into the filter. So, I would say they can mix behaviorally, but froggy may endanger the safety of the fish (water issues), and froggy's safety may be endanger if your aquariums any good in the filtration department.

Answer 7

Sure, i see it all the time at petstores. Just make sure that u cover the top. they love to jump out. But u might want to consider a 20 gal. tank. And make sure u get a african dwarf frog and not a african clawed frog. African clawed frogs can grow bigger than ur hand.

Answer 8

I suggest that you do not mix frogs with the array of fish you have. They carry different bacteria, etc.

A good book about tropicals and amphibians would be a good idea to invest in before you start mixing it up. Some inexpensive ones available in paperback form.

I think you are pushing the limit regarding space for your fish.

Answer 9

Look, ur tank is a bit too small for frogs, they r use to jmp out if they r nervous or disturbed by fishes, k u can keep them but remove the fat goldfishes, add 3-4 small tetras with the frog, keep ur tank covered well.
for extra info read this
http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Frog,%20Dwarf%20African.htm

Answer 10

Do u have a heater? If so what is the temp of the water..If not.. dont get a frog.