Are the feminist movement really about true equality or only equal when it benefits them?

Question

I have observed the purposes of the feminist movement which are to help women to get equal pay, equal promotion in the workforce, and equal power in political office. However are the feminist movement one-sided? For example they expect men to see them as equal in the workforce but then they do not pick up for males who are victims of domestic violence or sexual harassment as they do for women. The same can be said about the military draft, few women complain that is unfair that only men are required by law to serve. The same can be said about the death penalty, there are murders committed by women against men that do not receive the death penalty but vice versa it would result in an execution for a male murderer under the same circumstances. So is the feminist really about equality or one sided?

Answer 1

Feminism IS one sided and has gone way too far. The whole pretending that people are equal thing for all cultures, races and both genders is getting to a delusional state. People are NOT all the same. If we were then EVERYTHING would be the same. We are all PEOPLE--HUMAN, in that respect we are all equal as adult members of the species and entitled to treatment accordingly under the law (but it doesnt work out that way for fathers in child custody cases), but we can see everyday that some cultures do not practice some habits that others do, meaning that DIFFERENT cultures cannot be equal, some races happen to be better at some endeavors than others, thus the races are not equal, men and women are certainly not equal as there isnt a scientific point to being male and female if both are equal---nothing that is different can be equal!! Like saying an apple is equal to an orange. It doesnt make anyone less than, like trying to say an orange is superior to an apple. They have different properties, they are equal in being fruit, but that is where the equality ends.

I'm a recovering feminist. I was brainwashed by this New World agenda, and used to hate men--especially white men. Now that I've grown out of my youthful and foolish liberalism I've taken a step back to consider the merit of the white male who is the favorite whipping boy of our times. The white male is on trial for all of eternity for oppressing women, yet white men were the first to grant women the right to vote, and even before that at least afforded their wives respectability and priviledge--Thai women seek out white men and they cite kindness and gentleness as their reasons. In any country outside the western world women are treated like dirt. The white man is on trial for oppression and exploitation of other races. Firstly I'd like to know of a race NOT guilty of this crime, and remind eveyone that white men were the first to ban slavery and that it is still widely practiced in non-western countries almost everywhere in the world. Some of the greatest progress in science and medicine has been the fruit of white mans labor. We owe him a great debt.

Unfortunately humans cannot grasp moderation, so whenever men have the upper hand they abuse the priviledge, as do women like we see now. The feminazis have gone mad telling women they dont need men to raise children, they can do everything a man can do and have reduced men to mere sperm donors. This is a sad sad thing. Our female ancestors didnt like being reduced to baby machines, and while we can say that perhaps men should have a taste of their own medicine--what for? Revenge? How does that makes us any better?

Women can go on being Sex and the City sluts and raising babies alone (and doing a piss poor job of it as a child needs 2 parents!), and hating men, but they will end up alone. These men who have been told they should love porn and sleaze will also be alone, our children from these dysfunctional families will be alone, and really we will all just be alone unless natural harmony is restored. We need each other, and we should love and care for each other as God intended (my faith in God came back once I was unbrainwashed).

Men should care for women in the ways that they are naturallly suited, women should care for men the way that they are naturally suited, and remember that our priorities lie with the children--and my children will have my wonderful husband as a strong protective daddy (good example for my daughter to know what sort of man she should seek, role model for my son to know what kind of man he should be--fathers are so vital), and I will quit my job and stay home to be with my babies to make sure they are well cared for and learn right from wrong from me. Career women disgust me--if you cant raise your kids dont have them. I will enjoy my traditional female role as wife and mother and the beauty of my childrens childhood and my kids will respect their father as the head of the household because that is where he BELONGS (mind you he only belongs there if he treats me with respect).

I think that women have proven enough and that men and women need to revert back to their traditional roles a bit more and try to find a moderate path to follow. Not being drafted is one of the perks of being female, enjoying bigger salaries is one of the perks of being male, I like having the door held open for me and my husband enjoys my lovely dinners--and this is all just fine with me as we have a mutual respect for one another and that is how it is supposed to work!

Oh, and LatOria--I'm a Jewish female--the reason you see so many Jewish names in feminist circles is that usually active feminists are highly intelligent women and Jewish people have high IQ's--look in your phonebook for doctors and lawyers--you will find the same preponderance of Jewish names. The problem with these women is that they are intelligent but lack wisdom. Once they gain that they will grow out of feminism like I did.

Anyway thats my 2 cents.

Answer 2

You're generalizing quite a bit. Feminism is an ideal-how many of us can live up to an ideal? Feminism has been hijacked by some very angry people-both men and women who interpret it whatever way they can to make feminism look as bad as possible. Many of the laws that have been put into place aren't that great for women or men-but there were serious problems, and people tried to come up with solutions. Let's face it, life isn't fair. There's a lot if inequalities in our society and our world against men and women, as well as people of color and the poor. It can take a lot of trial and error before a fair system can be established.

Of course there will be some women who will take advantage of a situation, just like some men do. But if you're a fair person, you'll see that any violence or sexual harassment is wrong, regardless of who its against. Also, even though I hate war, if I was called I would go. If men are dying for our country, what American woman wouldn't want to do the same thing, and fight for their country? Of course it's unfair if some women don't receive the death penalty when men do, but frankly, I see mainly poor black men being executed in my state, so its a lot more complicated than a gender issue.

Most women today won't even call themselves a feminist, since a few angry men and women have redefined it to mean "man-hating lesbians". I remember being called a women libber since I wanted to be able to play sports (pre Title IX), go to college (I was one of 9 people in my class who went), have a choice about marriage and having children, wanted a choice about the job I could train for and actually apply for (in the 70's all want-ads were separated by gender), and wanted the opportunity to do something other than be a waitress, maid, teacher or nurse, if I wanted to do something else...that was just 30 years ago that few women went to college and fewer still did anything but very traditional "feminine" jobs. Without feminism, I would be living a very constricted life.

Answer 3

It does tend to be one sided. I remember this when it first began, and many women have abandoned the effort because it really does not serve their interests. As one woman in the movement said of the "bra burners" she wouldn't because she needs all the support she can get. The point being that extremism isn't necessarily positive to the cause. There was a fight at one time for women to be out on the front line with the men. It won't work, at least not in our society because of the way we view women. The movie "GI-Jane" points out some of the problems and issues that we as a society have with women on the front line. Actually, in nature, some of the most vicious fighters are the females. While what you say about women in terms of such things as murder, and the death penalty is true, the deep answers are to be found in how we, as a people group, view women. There are those who do want to be treated equally to men. There are also those who simply want equal pay for equal work, which I happen to agree with. That goes back to the idea that women just are not as capable as men, which is just not true. There will never be true equality on either side until everyone in society decides that there will be.

Answer 4

It's about equality, but we still have a long way to go. For example, you cite the example of women not being drafted. Women are still not allowed to serve in combat - until we have that right, there's no point in drafting us. We're fighting for the right be be allowed in combat positions now, and will deal with the draft after we win this fight. Female murderers not getting the same sentences as male murderers isn't about feminists, it's about judges who make unfair decisions.

Answer 5

What a great question. I agree with your statement and what you are trying to stay. As a person who has studied feminism, I tend to agree with you. I believe in the equality of all people. I do think it is unfair if there is a standard for men and women are not subjected to the same as well as equal treatment. You address great concerns and I have a few more. What about abortion rights? What about custody for dads? What about ... fill in the blanks. I am a humanist that means more to me than the politicization of femininity etc. I think the movement is about equality but people tend to pursue interests of their own and base it on maleness or femaleness.

Answer 6

Less than 100 years ago, women were not allowed to vote. in 1960, women were not allowed to have their own credit card, and rarely had their own bank account. Prior to this time, any wages women earned were given to her husband or father. In the early 1900's women lost their children to their drunken husbands.

A movement needed to happen. For the past 20 - 30 years, women have begun acting much like men, wanting more of the power. It is human nature to pick on the person less than you and unfortunately, that is how feminism has recently been perceived.

Do women want all the power? no, it's too much of a burden. But it does need to be shared equally - by all races, sexes, and classes.

Answer 7

feminists give women dangerous ideas, and its one ' ist ' we could certainly do without. I've always wondered why so many of the feminist leaders have jewish names, perhaps coincidence. men and women have roles, men work, women stay home, cook clean, raise children. that is fact and if you want healthy children you don't go stealing some job from a man and sacrifice your children for a few dollars.

Answer 8

Women want to have their cake and eat it too and they expect men to pay for it all.

Answer 9

i think that the feminist movement is how men fowls us women to do both jobs ours & theirs.

Answer 10

The feminists that I've run into are all about woman=good and should get advantages and man=bad and should be punished.

Look at the family court system. There's a prime example of feminism at work for you.