why do people who insist on having holocaust recognized refuse to even see pictures of Palestinian refugee cam

Question

I mean i'll agree the conflict is complicated.

But you hear from Hola\ocaust survivors how important empathy is. Why did not more germans, poles, etc, show human decency and compassion they ask and the quesion is justified. My question is why those who pretend to respect these survivrs cant show the same empathy wen tables are turned? Or can they?

Some groups that claim to fight hate (a noble endeavor)
- use terms like "Palestinian sympathizer" whenever ANY action by Israel is even questioned. For example one jewish group in canada claimed all our MPs except our conservatives were palestinian sympathizers becos they had reservations about the degree of bombing done in lebanon.
- humanitarian groups like amnesty international are almost equated with the nazi party when they are reputable in other conflicts. Heck Carter wrote a book that was not "easy" on any of the stake holders in israel conflict but because he had some critism of israel, several jewish members quit the carter
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institute.

Btw, its not that I personally hate. To the contrary, I'd like to see an end of the killing and for Hitler's legacy to finally end. I guess its a hopeless cause.

You say they left Israel VOLUNTARILY?

GIVE ME A REFERENCE!!!

The relationship is EMPATHY!!! I'm not pretending Israel is a "Nazi" state but the Palestinians do seem to have some potentially legitamate grievances. I mean its hard to get an intelligent independent presentation of the situation but one gets that impression rightly or wrongly.

The Jews were treated unjustly by the Nazis BEFORE formal halocaust occured. Being forced to wear yellow stars, forced to move from their businesses, violent beatings, etc, was already a HUGE injustice.

Actually killing them was simply a magnification of that injustice to an extent that should be imprinted on humanity for generations.

Answer 1

The two issues are not really related. Unless six million Palestinians have been executed by Israeli guards in the refugee camps?

You do not do the Palestinian cause any favor by drawing such comparisons.

If I understand the situation correctly, and I think I do, the Palestinians in those camps, or their families, left Israel of their own volition many years ago. No one is oppressing them other than their own choice and the failure of the host Arab nations to have given them any assistance so many decades after those people sought entrance to their countries.

Now their plight is one that needs assistance, but to falsely blame that on anyone is not going to help gain that assistance.

-- As to the amended question, you still miss the point in making the suggestion that Israel somehow caused the Palestinian Plight, They did not. Israel was created, the Arabs declared war, the Palestinians who left fled the country on their own free will. Israel didnt do ANYTHING to them. So it is not at all comparable to any part of the Holocaust, pre Final Solution or otherwise.

-- To the notion that the Holocaust isnt history, thats idiotic. I know men who were there liberating the camps. I know people who were in the camps. I have seen the formers photographs. It happened. Dont be a dolt.

-- As to the Palestinians being pitied, some of them certainly deserve this. But again, whose fault is their problem? They chose to leave, they did not have to. There are many Palestinians who stayed in Israel and enjoy the benefits of that decision, including the right to vote and hold office etc. The Arab nations have chosen not to assist them to alleviate the plight of those who fled into their countries for 59 years. Pity the Palestinians in refugee camps if you like, but do not blame Israel for their problems.

As for the Palestinians in Gaza etc, its hard to pity them for the current situation. They voted HAMAS into power, a terrorist group. Surprise surprise Hamas dragged them back into warfare and unrest. So yes its a shame, but who is to blame for their problems? Not Israel. No one but themselves.

Frankly how to fix it is a real poser. They do not have the sense to choose peace themselves, given the election of Hamas. They do not have the support of their fellow Arabs, given the failure of Arab nations to alleviate the conditions of the refugee camps in their borders. And whenever the Israelis try to offer peace, they allow terrorists to strike out and fail to turn them in or act against them - or vote them out of office. As for outside help, its hard for the UN to do anything with fighting between sections of the Palestinian government in the streets. We can see from Iraq how unsuccessful trying to intervene in a civil war can be.

They must sort this out on their own. We can only do what we can to prod them to choose peace and democracy.

Answer 2

I really like the way you think. I've often wondered myself why Israel is to be pitied, and Palestine is not. I, also, have nothing against Israel, but it does seem really unfair. Either way you look at it, people, on both sides, are dying....both sides are guilty of excesses, both sides are HUMAN...

Really...when will it end?

Answer 3

The Holocaust is no longer history it is Zionist religious dogma. Pictures of Palestinian camps do nothing to advance or benefit this Zionist religion.