here's something to ponder...i think you'll like it.
A teenage girl was about to finish her first year of college. She considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and her father was a rather staunch Republican.
One day she was challenging her father on his beliefs and his opposition to programs like welfare.
He stopped her and asked her how she was doing in school. She answered that she had a 4.0 GPA, but it was really tough. She had to study all the time,
never had time to go out and party and often went sleepless because of all the studying. She didn't have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have many college friends because of all her studying.
He then asked how her friend Mary, who was attending the same college,
was doing.
She replied that she was barely getting by. She had a 2.0 GPA, never studied, was very popular on campus, went to parties all the time and often wouldn't show up for classes because she was hung over.
The father then asked his daughter why she didn't go to the Dean's office and ask to take 1.0 off her 4.0 and give it to her friend that had only a 2.0. That way they would both have a 3.0 GPA.
The daughter fired back and said "that wouldn't be fair, I worked really hard for mine and my friend has done nothing."
2007-02-03 15:30:49
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answered by DeceptiConservative 4
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I think your referring to the people who could work but refuse to. If not, those are the only people you should be asking about. The fact is of course they don't benefit as much, nor should they. However, the alternative is to let these lazy people die. Which would be a burden on the conscious of too many people.
The problem is to determine whether they have a good excuse for not working. Health problems, high unemployment rate, and other problems are acceptable. However, what do we do when the situation is so complicated that it would take a costly investigation for each individual case to find out ? It would probably end up costing the rest of us more money than if we just gave them some support. So then we have to give them the benefit of the doubt. Then many of them will take advantage of the situation. The alternative is to not give anybody welfare, and run the risk of a person expiring through no fault of their own.
2007-02-03 23:25:13
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answered by Count Acumen 5
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Do you know some liberal who thinks this or are you just falling for some propaganda you heard somewhere?
I know many liberals, and I've never heard this view supported or expressed.
The truth is, a society is only as strong as its weakest link, so it is to everyone's benefit to attempt to lift up those at the bottom. But we do not have the choice to do nothing. That might sound good in a question like yours, but it isn't realistically possible.
We either lift poor people up with preschool, better teachers, after-school programs, school lunches, child care assistance, job placements, etc.--that's helping at the front end. OR we pay for it at the back end with increased police presence, expensive jails, more crime, more drugs, more violence, court costs, etc.
Those are the two choices, so no matter what your political opinions are, which would you prefer? Which one do you think would benefit our society and thus all of us as a whole?
2007-02-03 23:07:57
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answered by Anonymous
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It's like social security or insurance, we all work all our lives and expect that we will be taken care of at the end of our working years...but often, something happens to prevent some people from doing this.....my brother is 60 and has worked all his life and his wife developed cancer and a heart condition...one helicopter ride alone cost $30,000....his employer had recently cancelled his insurance for family members. There was no way he could ever pay it back and it was forgiven eventually. i pay taxes and can work, I have no trouble with part of my taxes being used to help the more unfortunate. But I also want abusers to be prosecuted. I am a Liberal because I believe in protecting people around me...they are not faceless, they are everywhere....The amount of money we are talking about is nothing compared to the military budget, it is simply a way to be human about protecting the sick, the elderly and unlucky...you certainly have no idea, but it is difficult to get government money, you have to have a legitimate problem.....this question is an example of ignorance of the general problems of the middle class....I am part of the middle class, I make 45,000 and pay taxes....most people are at about my pay scale or below, I actually give a damn about the old couple living next to me, what do you believe in besides your own wealth?
I live near Worthington, Minnesota where 800 illegals were arrested...the next monday hundreds of local, American born were lined up for the jobs. The Republican party wants to cater to the corporations and their desire for slave labor...if the Republicans really were concerned about the middle class they would attack these corporations...but since the opposite is apparent, it seems the Right is more concerned about corporate wealth
2007-02-03 23:12:51
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answered by Ford Prefect 7
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I am a hard-working liberal that is tired of conservative generalizations. I don't expect lazy people to get something for nothing, however I am realistic and know that not all people have great jobs, and believe it or not sometimes others need help. There will ALWAYS be people who don't make as much money at jobs that need to be done. Do you think cashiers, waitresses, janitors, stockers etc. are living the easy life? And what happens if these people stop doing their jobs? Even though these people don't make as much , you think they shouldn't have benefits like everyone else? Why does compassion for those less fortunate make liberals bad people? I bet you'd be pi**ed off if there was nobody at the counter of Starbuck's to make your Mocha Latte.
2007-02-03 23:13:45
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answered by alessa_sunderland 5
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Liberals are not pro-Welfare they are pro labor and jobs.
Hopefully the democrats will stop some of the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries and opening the floodgates to wider to illegal immigrants and H1B workers at much lower pay than Amercan workers.
Corporations ant to drive down wages to increase corporate profits. The result is the rich getting richer the poor getting poorer and a shrinking middle class.
2007-02-03 23:06:51
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answered by aiguyaiguy 4
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First of all, Liberals probably work harder than many of the non-liberals, who thrive in the corporate world by screwing over the less fortunate while they play golf with their buddies on work time drinking beer. So, in order to assure balance and justice, liberals promote social causes - otherwise the United States would be an Autocratic Aristocracy; there would be no human rights; and all minorities (and women) would be unemployed. When there is no help for the legitimately poor (because conservatives won't hire them) then the crime rate increases, such as theft, which increases the prices of products. Who fits the bill? The working class. So, would you rather spend tax money to help the poor or not help the less fortunate and live in a world of crime and paying more money to house criminals? Either way, money will be spent by the taxpayers, with the only difference being less poverty. In addition, when the poor have money, they spend it on prducts, which only helps the gross domestic product index and overall economy. Without helping others how can teh United States dare call itself a Democracy (look up the meaning of the word)?
2007-02-03 23:15:34
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answered by ? 3
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That not what they want. It is just painted as the alternative to the way things are shaping up now. Now almost everyone does the work but very few benefit from it. And those that benefit aren't the ones that work.
2007-02-03 23:03:01
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm a liberal. I've an advanced degree and work lots harder than most conservatives, some that make substantially more than me.....Who decides how much a person gets paid for the sweat of their hard work? I'm betting its not those that are living in poverty.
2007-02-03 23:13:36
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answered by az grande 2
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What about the people who can't work like the mentally or physically disabled? What about people who want to work but their jobs were sent overseas and they have a hard time finding a new job? What about the working poor who struggle to get by, but still need help? If we left it up to you, would all those people be left starving in the streets? What happened to helping our fellow man? I would rather everyone have a home and food no matter what.
2007-02-03 23:04:03
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answered by Seraphim 3
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The "sweating hard" workers are the ones that get the least.
So what's your point? Are you for a workers party?
2007-02-03 23:17:39
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answered by Anonymous
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