Anyone else think this is one of the worst ideas of all time?

Question

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070203/ap_on_sc/france_climate_change

An international body to police environmental issues. Honest to God, if the US cedes so much as one iota of sovereignty to some hare-brained scheme like this, I'll start agreeing with the people who say it's time for a second American Revolution.

Job Lowe: I didn't realize you were against the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection clause, or the concept that states control their own electoral laws.

Nice cut and paste job, snakes on a plane. The fact remains there is absolutely ZERO proof that Mankind has diddly squat to do with "global warming". Do you honestly deny that climate change is a cyclical thing? Do you deny the Ice Ages?

rick m: Why would I want to watch some half-baked conspiracy bovine excrement? You guys are out of touch with reality.

g: It's this thing called "sovereignty". I know you Dems are against it, but unless US citizens vote to cede it to an internationalist body, it is quite possibly the most un-American think one can advocate.

Answer 1

In 2008, the US will elect a new president. As you read about the many different candidates, ask yourself about each one, is this person going to turn over the running of our great country to the UN or some other scatter brain left leaning organization?
We have at least one Supreme Court Justice who quotes Zimbabwe law in his decisions! That bastion of freedom in Africa where people's land is seized without payment simply because the land owners are white.
It may be past time.

Answer 2

The problem is always the same with the French...scared; too scared support the US in Iraq, and now they want to put the US as the biggest in polution. It would figure. France is a 'do nothing nation' except to put up a stink and lay blame on everyone but themselves. It just so happens that the US is 3rd on the list and not first. China is first.

I can understand where they would want to fine the corporations who are the biggest contributors and get them to clean up their act; but when they talk about a world police for this...then I think the President of France should shut his pie-hole, don't you? I don't think the US will do such a thing at this point. Believe it or not this nation is taking more action against the bad air quality situation than anyone even realizes. Unless people spend some time on the Federal Government web site, (whitehouse.gov) where everything about every issue is listed, then they really have no clue and are presuming we're doing nothing, standing on the information from the media alone.

So, yeah...a lousy idea. If France cannot take part and figure this out on their own, or if they expect the EU to kiss their behinds and send in people who they believe to be responsible to get it done, then this is the saddest case of leadership I've ever seen; and that includes the situation the US is in right now. France does nothing but &itch and that's the truth. Holding all other countries to be responsible but them.

Answer 3

It's time for everyone to rebel through the expression of their opinion on this. Most candidates for office are poll watchers and it's time everyone start answering these polls.
If anyone supports this idea then they support the corruption that will inherently take over this environmental governing body much like the UN was corrupted during the oil for food programs etc...

The Evironment is most abused by local city and state governments which allow developers to merge wetlands and put ashphalt every where instead of giving the developers incentives to redevelope decaying and abandoned structures and city areas. They need to enforce the "tree schedule" (x amount of trees per square foot of property) for both evergreens and leaf baring instead of just being concerned about how long a lawn is.
States need to offer more incentives for "soil banking" etc...

Answer 4

We have already ceded our sovereignty to the World Trade Organization. It's okay to give away control of our country to global capitalism so the rich can get richer, but heaven forbid we give away any control to a body that might want to protect the world from our never ending greed.

Answer 5

I agree. It is a bad idea. Environmentalism like many other "noble causes" are simply tools of the global elite, used to establish control and unify global policy. Look at the IMF, UN etc. These organizations have other practises and policies from those stated openly.

Answer 6

It's called Global Warming, Not USA warming. It needs to be addressed on an international scale. I haven't read the details of this specific plan but I do know that if it's left to individual governments then not much will be done.

Answer 7

What's wrong with protecting the planet. I don't know about you but I think life is a gift and that this planet is precious and worth protecting. Die on your own time, but stop perpetuating the ridiculous notion of our country is an island on this planet that it can do whatever it wants to without consequence to itself or the rest of the world. It would be nice if cons and the GOP would learn their own philosophy they keep telling everyone else to have: "Personal Responsibility".

Answer 8

We don't need an international police. We also don't need special interest groups manipulated people like you that global warming isn't caused by human activity.

the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee held a hearing to discuss the Bush administration's interference with the work of government climate scientists. As evidence of the pressure scientists have experienced, the Union of Concerned Scientists and the Government Accountability Project presented a report documenting 435 instances in which the Bush administration interfered into the global warming work of government scientists over the past five years. Nearly half -- 46 percent -- of government scientists "personally experienced pressure to eliminate the words 'climate change,' 'global warming,' or other similar terms from a variety of communications." The same percentage said they "perceived or personally experienced new or unusual administrative requirements that impair climate-related work." Thirty-eight percent "perceived or personally experienced the disappearance or unusual delay of websites, reports, or other science-based materials relating to climate." And, 25 percent "perceived or personally experienced situations in which scientists have actively objected to, resigned from, or removed themselves from a project because of pressure to change scientific findings." "Political interference is harming federal science and threatening the health and safety of Americans," said Francesca Grifo, senior scientist and director of scientific integrity program for the Union of Concerned Scientists. Grifo added that nearly 700 scientists, or 39 percent of respondents, feared retaliation for openly expressing their concerns.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the most authoritative group on global warming, reports today that human activities were "very likely" the main cause of warming in the past 50 years. The Guardian reports that there is a well-heeled orchestrated movement going on below the radar to confuse the public about the IPCC's report. The oil lobby is so desperate to push back on the new climate change study that it has been offering to pay global warming skeptics to speak out. The Guardian reports, "Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today. ... The letters were sent by Kenneth Green, a visiting scholar at [American Enterprise Institute], who confirmed that the organisation had approached scientists, economists and policy analysts to write articles for an independent review that would highlight the strengths and weaknesses of the IPCC report." AEI has received more than $1.6 million from ExxonMobil. As Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth noted, there have been no peer-reviewed scientific articles published in recent years that express any doubt that humans are contributing to climate change. Yet more than 50 percent of news media coverage of the issue includes the oil industry's position on the subject.

Answer 9

oh... come on... it's the french doing it... it will make the UN look like a "powerful organization" relatively...

you Republicans cry about everyone else being traitors and then one lame little organization forms and you want to overthrow the government if they join it?

guh... your patriotism fills me with pride... hahaha

EDIT: no one will lose any "sovereignty" over this... all they would ever do is make up a bunch of rules that they have no way to enforce and then cry and complain when people don't follow them... whopity do...

and I can think of much more "un-American" things that joining a silly organization that wouldn't really make any bit of difference in the world.. like taking away our right to vote, taking away our freedom of speech, taking away freedom to assemble...

Answer 10

Great idea, won't happen. Who is going to enforce it? President Bush polluted the state of Texas in his favorable decisions for business when he was governor and is doing the same as President. Imagine having to explain why we were so willing to pollute the earth in favor of profits while disregarding science and the well-being of future generations. I don't want to have to try to explain that to my kids let alone yours.