Why is it all Libs and Dems..don't want..?

Question

victory in Iraq...they just want to cut and run..If Hillary looses in 08 would you tell never to run again..dont think so..do you want victory..or defeat for America..and dont hand me its Bush's war..it may become Hillary's war..just like JFK and LBJ did to Nixon..remember childern study your history...it was Nam..had to off to Nixon. to deal with..he didnt start it..

yes my grammar...isnt the issue you grammar nazis..grew up and deal with the issue...not my grammar..you cant can you..

Answer 1

IT IS NOT BUSH'S WAR. It is SADDAM HUSSEINS WAR. He was given the chance to cooperate with UN weapons inspectors AND HE DIDN'T. He continued to refuse them access to weapons sites over and over again. Congress gave Bush authorization to use force if Saddam didn't cooperate, and the UN Security Council Resolution 1441 condemned his regime if he didn't cooperate. So Bush, as well as Congress, as well as the UN Security Council 15-0 decided to grant Saddam his wish.

He has also been in material breach of the UN security council for twelve years.

Answer 2

There will never be a "victory" in Iraq. You can't defeat an ideology. These people have been living like that for thousands of years. What makes the US think that they even want a democracy?

I'm completely supportive of all the innocent Iraqis who just want to live life and love their family, but there's no way the US is going to change a place like that.

Sure, we could finish of all of the terrorists. But, tomorrow there will be thousands of others. There is no way to solve this problem. It's not like we're over there, fighting a war so we can lay claim to Iraq. We're over there to help place democracy. They obviously don't want it. The US has such a superiority complex, they just want to force all their beliefs onto the rest of the world.

Instead of spending billions of dollars on a war that is un-winnable, why can't that money be spent on our own citizens? Do you know what an improvement that kind of money would make in our public school system? How much affordable housing we could build for low-income families?

You always want to blame the liberals and democrats (which I am both. Proudly.) yet you don't stop to think about the entire situation. Our troops could be over there for 15 years and there still won't be "victory." We just want our troops back before any more of them are killed.

Answer 3

Please define "victory".

President Bush said we were to go into Iraq, overthrow Saddam, and bring him to justice. We have done that. In fact, in 2003, President Bush flew to the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln and declared: "Major combat operations in Iraq are over." There was a large "Mission Accomplished" sign behind him.

As I see it, we won the war. Why Bush did not withdraw the troops then is still a mystery to me.

Right now, our troops are caught in the crossfire between the Sunni and Shia element. These two sects have been enemies for centuries; they will continue killing each other after we leave. Personally, I believe it would be wise to look at Representative John Murtha's plan. Kindly remember he is a decorated Marine veteran-he knows what he is talking about. It does not "cut and run" but rather redeploys our troops to places like Kuwait where they are out of the stress of everyday fighting but close enough to come in if, say, Iran invades on the side of the Shia. Our troops are stretched thin and are stressed out, with some units on their third or fourth deployment, some staying in the theater of war despite being told they were going home. What good will it do for us to remain? It will only destroy our military, and I care too much for our troops to let that happen.

Answer 4

Because victory has lost all meaning. It is a war between factions in Iraq, not a war between us and factions. We are merely trying to keep the peace. The only way we could succeed in THAT would be to dedicate an unreasonable number of troops. And even then, would that be a "victory?" What does cut and run mean? Who said that we want to do that? We want to devest ourselves from an engagement which is not worthwhile for us.

Answer 5

uh... Nixton cut and run from Vietnam?

AND IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AT ALL... Communism didn't sweep the world... we weren't fighting communists in the streets of America... we weren't speaking Vietnamese 5 years later...

so... what's your point?

history shows us that when we are in a relatively inconsequential country that is rife with civil war... a stable democracy may not be possible... no matter how long you want to stay and try... and in the end, it may not make much of a difference...

so... what is your point? you're getting revenge for Nixon getting stuck with Vietnam by sticking the democrats with Iraq?

is that why Bush started the war?

Answer 6

What would victory in Iraq mean? We've lost so much irretrievably, given the dozens of innocent people we tortured at Abu Graihb (our military says they were innocent - 90% of the people we held.) We've put fundamentalist Shiites in power in Iraq. We've lost a trillion dollars, 3,000 American lives, tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. We supposedly did this for WMD, with lying hints about 9/11. Then it was to liberate the iraqis. By killing them apparently. Then it was to attract all terrorists to iraq to fight them there ala The Stand by Stephen King.

What exactly would victory in Iraq be? You know why I don't support whatever that lying slogan is? Because the Iraq war was a war based on lies fought for the sole purpose of draining our treasury into Dick Cheney's company (which had done business with Saddam in the late 90s) and clamping down on American civil liberties. Victory for whom?

This will always be Bush's war. And Nixon did plenty to earn his infamy on the war, as did Johnson's treachery and failures in Vietnam are clearly remembered.

Answer 7

Hey I am a Dem and I want peace in Iraq. I just think that we went about it wrong way and also, we attacked the wrong country. The old Saddam didn't have a pot to leak in let alone WMD'S. What a blunder that was made by the repubs and thier bad recon. That blunder has cost over 3000 lives and what for??? To try and convince the Iraq people to change thier beleifs???

Answer 8

Sometimes its not about being a grammar Nazi, but just wanting to understand what it is your talking about. At the very least push the check spelling button. Does all the work for you.

The Liberals and Democrats are putting up every roadblock they can to keep the troops from being successful because if the troops succeed then Bush succeeds. They cannot have that. For them it isn't about doing what is right, but what will put them back in power. Same can be said about the Republicans during the Clinton impeachment.

Answer 9

1. you can't use ALL in your sentences because you can't apply an opinion to everyone in a certain group of people

2. Its not that we don't want to win, it's just that this isn't a war! Its just a sneaky way for Bush to try to get money and oil. (here comes the thumbs down)

Answer 10

It's not a matter of want it's a matter of feasibilty, see thanks to the eternal screws ups of Bushco they have created an unwinnable situation, Too many mistakes were made in the beginning to salvage anything that will look like true victory for it to be a REAL possibilty, if you had any honesty in you, you'd know this is our WORST managed war EVER, as a result we need to find the BEST of a bad situation, we have niether troop strength, or the financial abilty to pull it off, unless of course you'd volunteer for both a tax RAISE and to VOLUNTEER, since I doubt you'd do either and the freaking Iraqi's are more interested in ancient fueds as opposed to a solution we have to find a way to exit gracefully and stop spending our blood and treasure on an ill conceived, poorly executed war