Hillary or Condi. Who is really a better example for feminism.?

Question

Disclaimer - I loathe Condi Rice's politics. Bracket your politics and think about this one for a minute. Let's have some more fun and identify ourselves as liberla/conservative, democrat/republican, etc.

Edit: to be more clear - base your answer on their career paths to date.

Answer 1

Condi most definitely. Unlike Ms. Clinton, Condi has not needed to use a man who abuses her constantly with ongoing affairs to make her political career. Also, unlike Clinton, she is a more total package; Condi was almost a concert level pianist, graduated at the head of her class in Russian linguistics and Sociology, and attained the level of Provost of a college. Reportedly after politics Condi says she might want to become NFL commissioner.

Both women are intelligent, but only Condi has used her talent alone to attain her position, rather than holding the coat-tails of an abusive male counterpart who is her better. I would also mention that Condi is the first African American AND Woman to attain her positions of Secretary of state, but it is not important that she is black so much as that she is a great person.

I am a conservative, by the way. But don't let this make you think that I hold my views only because she is a Republican. I am definitely pro-woman in most areas, and enjoy reading Camille Paglia.

Answer 2

Mrs. Sirimavo Bandaranaike was the first female head of government in the world in Sri Lanka (formerly Ceylon). Later female heads of government have been Mrs Ghandi in India, Mrs. Golda Meir in Israel, Ms Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan, a Muslim country, Mrs Margaret Thatcher in the United Kingdom and Ms Helen Clark in New Zealand. Recent presidents of Eire (Republic of Ireland) have been Mary Robinson and Mary Macaleese. All have been elected to their parliaments I believe.

Senator Clinton has also been elected to a parliament. Dr. Rice, despite her undoubted talents, has never been elected to a parliament. There have been a fair supply of female cabinet ministers in this government or that around the world. So there is no great shortage of female role models at the top levels of government.

As heads of state, anyone can hardly do better than to study the careers of Their Brittanic Majesties Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth I and Queen Elizabeth II. Elsewhere, Queen Juliana of the Netherlands and Queen Margarethe of Denmark seem to have done an honorable job but the Dowager Empress of China was probably a poor example of a ruling and reigning monarch. Long ago Hatshepsut was Queen of Egypt but her failings and strengths are now forgotten. There is more to being a reigning Queen (or King) in a constitutional monarchy than producing an heir and dressing up in velvet and ermine.

To a some extent, most of the policies don't matter all that much from the point of view of talent and work.

BTW I'm a liberal/ fabian/ conservative/ socialist/ ultramontane syndico-anarchist/ protectionist/ free trader rusted on swinging voter who hates Ayn Rand and Karl Marx. A pair of real thickheads who should have got married, pity old Karl was born so early, he'd have made dear old Ayn a marvellous hubby. They could have "stressed" all over the place instead of just on every third page of "Atlas Shrugged", one of the crookest novels I've ever tried to read.

Huey Long for King of the World, I say with Winston Churchill as his offsider. Alternatively, a plague on all their houses.

Answer 3

Donations are in no way a predictor of how well someone will do in office. Obama got how much in donations? He's still in way over his head, and we're still struggling. Considering the requirements for the Presidency, neither of them is more qualified than the other. They're both of a certain age, and they both (supposedly) were born here. Neither has spent time in the private sector, so their experience with how the economy works is academic, or otherwise Washingtonian in nature, meaning they have no grasp of how the real economy works.

Answer 4

Condi earned her acheivemnets through her own hard work and diligence. Hillary's biggest achievements seem like she had bullied her way through. So politics aside I'd have to be honest and say Condi.

Answer 5

Condi because she deals with several issues she can speak foreign languages and she has knowledge of the middle east and foreign affairs.Where Hillary i believe doesn't have knowledge of allot of facts and how to deal with certain things and conditions,Besides a woman will never be in office because the country needs strong leadership..

Answer 6

Hillary is a strong idependant woman and Condi is tied to the tails of this failed administation, more of yes person for W. I have to go with Hillary on this one. Yes, I am a democrat, and belive in liberal values.

Answer 7

One is making a strong attempt at becoming the first female president. One is following the current president around trying to clean up the ridiculous international mess he causes. I'll have to go with Clinton =P

Answer 8

Hillary went to school, pursued a career and raised a family - she did it all, which is what feminism is all about I would think

Answer 9

Condi !!!!!!!!!!!