Do you think this is fair? [Everyone's opinion matters!]?

Question

Ok, pretty soon, we're gonna be taking the California High School Exit Exam. [CASHEE] which consists of 8th grade math and 10 grade english.
Students who don't pass won't get their diploma their senior year, but a certificate of completion. [We start taking it during our sophmore year]
To pass the test [if we didn't the first time]we get one chance sophmore year, 2 chances junior and 4 senior. Fair enough Fair enough. It's pretty debatable because they're saying students were graduating high school literally unable to read, write, or do simple math, but do you think it's fair that even if a student, who's met ALL the requirements to graduate high school and is just a horrid test taker, doesn't pass the test and isn't allowed to graduate? I mean, I know you get 7 chances to pass it, but stil do you think it's fair to that one kid to have worked so hard, already proving that they can read and do math, to not be able to graduate? This isn't ME btw, I'm just curious.

Answer 1

Nope, not fair at all. I went through something similar. I was just lucky there was a good test taker next to me ;)

Seriously, I understand. I am severly dyslexic, and there was no one to help me get through some of the questions or have parts read to me, as well dyslexcis have some trouble with reading.

It's horrible that we all have to have a "standard" knownledge, and have to pass tests to show how smart we are. I think the test shoudl be on what you are studing in school. Like if you are a musican, it should be on music. ect...

The only advice i have for those who are going to take it, if you do indeed have trouble taking tests, go to the summer schookl courses they give. It helped me. Ruined my summer a bit, but I passed the first test. Good luck to all!

Answer 2

Hmm. This is a hard descision. On one hand, it's not fair since people who can't read or write can graduate if they pass. But a straight A student freezes up and can't pass. You have a point. But on the other hand, They do give you 7 chances. And even if someone gets lucky and passes the test, they did pass the test. It's almost impossible to tell who just guessed and who knew. So in that note, it's pretty fair.

Answer 3

On a psychological stand point its not fair. There are many, many people who experience test anxiety. What can those test anxiety people do? They need to inform a teacher or someone at the school they experience it. Those people can't anticipate that someone will understand thier test anxiety if they don't express it verbally to the school. People are not mind readers nor do they see all the signs a particular person may be experiencing during a particular situation. So, my suggestion to you to tell those who have test anxiety to express it to those giving the test. Those informed can make proper adjustments and perhaps help to the student. When someone has a fear, embarrassed they shouldn't be, help is what they need. ASK. Help can come from the strangest places if it is just asked for.

Answer 4

Actually NO it's not fair. We have the same thing here in GA. for early school year it's the CRCT. My darling Niece makes staight A's and has failed the CRCT everytime until the school got special permission to have the test orally. She is just not good at test. She gets very nervous and worries so much she is just way to stressed to do any good. She maintains a 4.0 all year and that is proof enough she is learning. So NO testing is not fair for poor test students. If this is you or a friend have them check and see if they can take an oral examination.

Answer 5

It seems like it would be, and I would have said yes, it is fair, had I not known someone who just couldn't pass that exam to save his life. He tried so hard and even had tutors helping him. He was even the last person to finish the test and still could not pass it. I felt so bad for him, but it never really bothered me until graduation night. I saw him standing on the bleachers after it was all over with tears on his face because he couldn't pass that test to graduate with us. So now, I do not believe it is fair. Not one bit.

Answer 6

I personally think that that's more than fair. How coud the student pass or meet all the previous requirements without taking almost a billion super-hard tests? (ok maybe not THAT many...) That person had better get good at taking tests soon, b/c if he/she plans to go to college, you either pass, or you fail. No second chances.

Answer 7

I think it's stupid but schools are too busy making kids lives miserable. If a kid has all the credits to graduate they shouldn't have to take some stupid test and then if they fail don't graduate at all. That isn't fair to the kids who really worked hard.

Answer 8

i think that they have other ways of graduating.

our state test is the Washington Assesment of Student Learning(WASL) and they have a system for if you dont pass.

if you fail the test 2 times, then you take special classes and if you pass those classes, then you can graduate. they also compare your grades to those who have passed the test.

there are usually ways of getting around the basic laws, so if somebody was really in that situation, then they could(probably) still graduate.

Answer 9

we have that in delaware too... but its called DSTP--delaware state testing program

stupid *** george bush's idea.

anyway, yeah it is basically the same exact thing.
im really good in school, i have all a's and some b's. but i never take test well. its just not my thing. i forget everything, and get really nervous since my whole school year of hard work depends on this one single test, and go blank. but at like work and stuff, i can do math perfectly fine. and i dont forget any school things.... but i havent used barly anything i learned in school since like 7th grade (now in 10th)

but i think its wrong... just because im a bad test taker? later, all those things on the test come back to me, but i can never do well on it... and i dont wanna be pentalized for that... neither should anyone else.

and plus, some things on the test, we never did in class... since the teachers dont even get to see the test until we take it.. really fair huh?

Answer 10

Its totally fair (I'll be taking the CASHEE soon as well) You don't have to be crazy smart to pass the high school exit exam. You just have to be proficient. Believe me, most people pass it their first time around. Good Luck:)

~Mimosa