Did HILLARY vote FOR the WAR before she voted against it?

Question

She is doing the SAME thing that got John Kerry into hot water.

She was ALL FOR THE WAR when it was politically expedient for her to do so.
NOW - she is against the war and said she was "tricked".
If she was "tricked" - do you liberals STILL think she is the brightest bulb on the chandelier?

Answer 1

She's been a coward when it comes to the Iraq War. John Edwards had the balls to call his vote a mistake, why doesn't she? I mean, she's obviously got... oh, never mind.

She's been shooting herself in the foot lately. She recently said the war should be over before Bush leaves office. That's all well and good, but it ain't gonna happen. She's playing to the "Bring our troops home NOW!!!" people, but it's a huge mistake. It's a big demographic, and it might win her the Presidency, but it'll haunt her later.

People are going to expect results. If they vote for her because she vowed to "end the war as President" (if it's still going on when she's inaugurated, which it obviously will be), and she doesn't deliver really quick, she's going to have problems.

Hillary's not dumb, and she knows we're in Iraq for the long haul, like it or not. Either she leaves the soldiers in, and her base feels betrayed, or she pulls them all out, and Iraq really, really goes to hell. Then you've got Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt on a stage demanding an end to the inevitable "Iraqi Genocide".

No matter what, come 2012, (if she's President) she's not going to want to talk about Iraq.

Answer 2

As a lefty I think she had a fairly dismal track record on the war in general and I never thought she was the brightest bulb.

As a pro-feminist guy I think she is the worst example a woman could want - follow your husband to power. Boy that's liberated.

AND while I'm at it why in god's name do we want the same two families holding the reins of power for going on 30 years (since at least 1980 when Bush Sr was VP)

And this whole "we were duped" nonsense is a cop-out. There were plenty of people saying the shrub was full of crap before the war.

This is one where we on the left need to be honest with ourselves. Our people were either cowardly or with the president - there really is no middle ground.

Wake up brothers and sisters.

Answer 3

You don't get out much do you? It's been known that Bush was trying to find a reason to invade Iraq even BEFORE 9/11. I know quite a few in the intel services and I keep hearing the same thing: Bush's administration kept changing or wouldn't show, reports that contradicted their rationale for the invasion.

I would love to see an actual investigation into the run-up to the war and criminal charges for all those involved in changing things.

As for Clinton, I don't think she is qualified.

Answer 4

accepted of the countless Democrats, like Kerry. Vote for something because of the fact of public opinion. while the time-honored public opinion changes, so do the politicians! She is sooooo far to the left that is insulting while she claims she's a reasonable. Does she think of we are stupid and that we don't see with the aid of her lies?

Answer 5

Jamie she voted for the war 5 months before any action was taken. And even after that she never spoke out against it until much later.

Sunset Sam how exactly did Bush trick anyone?? They had the same info he did. That is total mindless nonsense.

Answer 6

Hitlery has never voted against this war, she has only said she regrets her past behavior, the same line Bill uses when he's under pressure. If something bad happens to Bill, Kerry might dump Teresa, grab Hitlery, become her mate and running mate and try to be the first couple to be President and Vice President.

Answer 7

Yes. Here is a list of other Democrats I won't vote for for the same reason:
Biden (D-DE)
Bayh (D-IN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Clinton (D-NY)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kerry (D-MA)
Reid (D-NV)
Daschle (D-SD)
Harkin (D-IA)
That's just senators. You'll find a lot of '08 hopefuls on that list. Obama gets a free pass on this issue because he wasn't there. Edwards has humbled himself and stated publicly his vote was a mistake and has apologized for it. Hillary has not (and probably will not) do that as she views it as a show of weakness. The rest of this lot prefer to pass blame. Of that list, Edwards is the only one I still have any respect for because he showed humility and admitted HIS mistake without assigning blame.

Answer 8

Many people were tricked by Mr. Bush. But the facts changed, perceptions changed, new discoveries were made, the President flip-flopped on his rationale for war (Al-Quaida, WMDs, Saddam threatend his Daddy, God told him to, etc.) and now more than 2/3 of Americans have moved against Mr. Bush's costly vendetta. I think people realize Hillary tried to be a good bipartisan booster but got burned, like so many before her.

Answer 9

I'm gonna give you the straight truth- if she didn't vote for the war, it probably would have been political suicide. She's a minority in the Senate, and high-ranking minorities are under constant watch.

Answer 10

It is fact that the senate was misinfomed. "Tricked" wasn't the best thing for her to say as other deomcrats weren't "tricked" and voted against it. Yes, she is repositioning herself politically, which is smart. However, Hillary is not my choice, she really isn't "liberal" enough for me.