What type of False Dilemma is it When someone says they support the troops but not their CAC?

Question

Commader & Cheif?

See they swear to be loyal to the CAC. So when people state I support the troops but not the war they are liars perhaps even its treason to try to undermine or soilders as a fighting force.

So why do people feel validated in making statements that are not true. Is it a feigned efffort to show support while really you hate them that is the troos but do not want to appear to be a traitor so take a dig at them in another way.

Answer 1

The soldiers volunteer to serve this country, and follow their president. I can't help but support the troops, they offer everything they have for America. They will follow any president, but I can choose to follow the president, and I do not support Bush. You can't force a binary all-or-nothing support the government and military or don't condition. That's just not fair and it's not the way it is.

Answer 2

A dilemma that actually takes years of practice of doublespeak and hypocracy. With Jane Fonda touted on their shoulders as their hero, they continue their 50 year history of undermining our country's mission for the sake of their own political prowess. They completely refuse to see that their constant hatefulness-at-all-costs of the CAC, directly lowers the troops morale overseas. It is a total farce. If you support the troops, you hope for their utmost and highest success in their priority that is their mission. At the same time, and from the other side of their mouths, they call the "CAC's mission" a "debacle, a failure, a lie, a quagmire, and a war for oil", along with a host of many other deceitful, traitorious labels. You cannot have it both ways no matter how hard you try to spin it. It's of no consequence to them that the military men and women hurt the most, so long as they can continue their verbal bludgeoning of the hated and evil Bush. The sad irony is that by giving troops on the ground our complete support of every and any thing they need to succeed, then the troops could come home so much faster. The definiton of support is "to hold up", but by constantly berating a CAC for the sake of politcal advancement, all you are doing is in fact "tearing down".

Answer 3

Simple the Commander and Chief has the choice of going to war or not, the congress has the choice on voting yes or no. The soldier has no such choice. He or she will either be imprisoned for life or the death penalty if the refuse.
So they go on every mission no matter how incompetent the CAC is and fight like the brave men and women they are only to find that the VA benefits are the first thing the republicans would cut and still afford to save their own tax cuts.
I guess it is a false dilemma, the one where they say they support the troops and let them die for their own pride and profit, and for the ones the live and come back they refuse help for their profit.
Bravo conservatives, Bravo republicans, Bravo.
May God have mercy on your souls.

Answer 4

I agree with you I posted this question a few days ago and had some pretty interesting responses.

I read this column and found it just a little disturbing. Any comments either right or left leaning, are appreciated.

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3 days ago
“That poll about Iraq... came out last week and it posed various questions about whether folks thought the ‘surge’ was a good idea or not. Including the following: ‘Do you personally want the Iraq plan President Bush announced last week to succeed?’ And here’s how the American people answered: 63 percent said yes, 22 percent said no, 15 percent said they didn’t know. Let me see if I understand that. For four years, regardless of this or that position on the merits of the war, almost everybody has claimed to ‘support our troops.’ Some of us have always thought that ‘supporting the troops’ while not supporting them in their mission is not entirely credible.

3 days ago
But here we have 37 percent of the American people actually urging defeat on them. They ‘support our troops’ by wanting them to lose. This isn’t a question about whether you think the plan will work, but whether you want it to work. And nearly 40 percent of respondents either don’t know or are actively rooting for failure... What were the numbers like for D-Day?” —Mark Steyn

Answer 5

Your assumption is flat out false. Supporting the troops does not mean you believe in the war or what they are doing over there. Supporting the troops means you understand they are doing their job and you want the government to give them all the support and resources necessary to do the job safely. It also means questioning the government to ensure the troops are not in harms way one day longer than necessary.

If people blindly accepted whatever the will of the president was, then he could send our troops into whatever conflict he wanted and no one would ever question whether it was the right thing to do.

Answer 6

Because they just want to blame the CAC for everything that has gone wrong and they support the troops because they are supporting the newly trained Iraq troops and police until they get it right and can do it without them.

I support both...so this doesn't apply to me, but just wanted to throw that in here anyway. The libs will give me thumbs down, but they want their points for all the right answers...don't they?

Answer 7

I don't agree with the CAC our troops chose to serve thier country and because of that choice (which they understood what could happen when they joined) they're having to do something that all eople don't feel is right. Yes I support the Troops but not our CAC's decesions.

Answer 8

that is absolutely true.


its not a matter of difference in tactics by the left. the claim that the United States started the war! they claim the president was involved in 911! they claim the military are intentionally killing civilians!

its not enough for them to disagree. they lie and attempt to undermine the effort of the president and the country. they lie about the history of saddam, they lie about the US taking oil.

infact, i dare anyone to show the difference between the lefts talking points and osama bin ladin when it comes to the United States.



and thats a memo

Answer 9

Why don't you ask Trent Lott and the republicans about it? He is the one who first said that when he was Republican Majority Leader of the Senate.

Talk about hypocrisy, you right-wingers take the cake.

Answer 10

He is the commander in chief, you can't support one without supporting the other, that is hypocrisy.