Are they all teachers?

Question

I am referring to the answers to the questions posed, obviously by teachers.

Are all these answers being proffered by other teachers because it sounds like it!

When teachers can't get an opportunity to vent their spleens with non-teachers, they obviously like to get together in a little forum and have a good old whinge between themselves!

Instead of moaning all of the time you ought to go out and concentrate on doing a better job with our future adults.

I have retired - I don't have to concentrate on my job any more!

I am entitled to make my views - I pay into the system that supports this so called profession.

Amaing isn't it - teachers have even got their own channel on TV so they can make their views public, but the people who pay them are told to go elsewhere.

I'm sorry I have very little time for the teachers of today.

For the amount of time that they have to put in they really aren't value for money!

Teaching is after all a great "vacation"

If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen!

Answer 1

oy try working in a high school....you would want to vent your spleen and more besides...and no we don't get together n a little forum and have a good old whinge between themselves!

as for doin a better job - you may be able to get a child into a school but you cannot make them engage in learning...perhaps if the cane was back things would be different

Answer 2

I think you hit the nail on the head there when you say 'so-called profession'. Time was when teaching was a profession and one that was respected - never on salary as it was also a vocation like nursing. Nevertheless it had kudos and it was worth and meant something.
In the 23 years I have taught, I have witnessed a whole barrage of politics that has been foisted upon the profession by Politics.

All teachers would love to do a better job with our future adults - they also know that the way the present system has been going and continues to go is not the way to do it.

Standards rising ? The GCSE exams of today are not a patch on the 'O' Level exams. A* started as a recognition for exceptional students who gained 99% or 100% - a fair recognition. Now it covers as much as top 5% maybe more in some subjects.
As children no longer have to remember information over long periods of time it is only the short term memory brain cells that are working. Education is as much about exercising all of the brain as anything else. I genuinely fear for the future of this country if something is not done soon to rectify this.

Answer 3

You are entitled to your views, but sadly they are warped and you are venting YOUR spleen on a subject you have little experience in, know little about and fail to comprehend. Not only that, but you are entrenched in prejudice and bitterness. I wonder why?

You say you are retired. Did you get early retirement with a nice little pension from the aeronautics industry where your responsible job at designing aeroplane parts was in a quiet and comfortable office? Were you able to go and get a cup of coffee or go to the toilet when the need arose, or have a quiet smoke when you felt like it? I am sure that your company was fully insured too and, had there been a fault in your design, you would have been covered and not have been held personally responsible for it. Presumably your week-ends and holidays were unincumbered and free from work related activities.
You complained about the stress of being continually appraised. The profesionals whom you are besmirching are continually appraised, not only by inspectors, but by their superiors, their peers, their students, and their pupils' parents. Not only that, but they appraise themselves on a daily basis, reviewing their output and seeking how to improve it. Often they are own their strictest critics.
Unbeknownst to you, they do go into work during the school holidays and give large slices of their vacations to prepare for the on coming terms or to escort school parties on educational visits abroad or on field trips.The level of responsibility on the latter is unbelievable.

Clearly now that you "do not have to concentrate" on your job, you have time on your hands. Instead of wasting your talents ranting in this forum, why don't you use them constructively?
May I suggest that you offer some of your free time as a volunteer helper in a near-by school as I do. Doing so has taught me a great deal of humility and has given me a true insight in what obstacles lay in the way of teachers, and their level of dedication and professionalism. I am sure that your excellence will be appreciated and that you will help children to read and to write to a standard that pleases you and that you will show a thing or two to these poor idlers that are overpaid and underworked in your eyes. It will give you an opportunity to get an even better insight into their supposed failings.

Thank goodness they do not "get out of the kitchen" and they do stand the heat or otherwise there would be no education at all.

Answer 4

I am so sorry that you feel that way. Did you have a bad educational experience?
I think most of us moan for only one reason....we worked on a college degree with the impression that we were going into a profession that allowed us to help all children become productive citizens. However, we got the slap of reality that the entire US education system is just a sham, a facade, and there is nothing we can do to change it...when there are students in middle school that cannot write a 5 paragraph essay and cannot do their multiplication tables, they will still get sent on to the high school and soon become a drop out..but when I try to get them tested to receive special ed services, their parents will not allow it and the principal makes us promote them to the next grade....it does not matter how good of a job we do in a broken system...but I should not bore everyone with that....we can talk about it when America is taken over by other, smarter nations and we are all working for them..we will have plenty of extra time then.

Answer 5

You certainly show that you don't know what you are talking about from your comments! Teachers do not work from 9 to 3.30 - good teachers will be at school at least by 8 a.m. and will not usually finish working until well into the evening and probably also for a good part of the weekend. Teaching itself is ,comparatively, a small part of the job - preparation of lessons and classrooms, long,medium and short term planning, monitoring, assessments, marking, evaluations, training, counselling, subject co-ordination, administration, differentiation to mention just some of the other tasks which are included in the job! This does not even take into account stress related activities organising classes of 30+ children into a happy learning environment - let alone those children who don't even want to be there for whatever reason.

If you don't know what you are talking about, I suggest you refrain from reading these pages and stay within your own comfort zone.

Answer 6

Thanks very much for your views on the quality of teaching today. My colleagues and I always welcome feedback on ways in which we can improve the qaulity of our teaching!

I'm sorry that your experience of teachers is limited to the types of people that you describe. Most of the teachers that I work with are dedicated, hard-working people who do a fantastic job with our future adults! I've been teaching for 2 years now and if I become even a quarter as good as them when I retire, I will be a very happy woman indeed!

As for your accusation that teachers like to get together in a little forum and have a have a good old whinge between themselves when they can't vent their spleens with non-teachers, I feel sad that you have such a low opinion of us when we are merely try to do the best job that we can. Neither I nor any of the other teachers that I know spend time engaging in such unprofessional, pointless and time-wasting behaviour!

Yes, we do go onto the internet and talk to each other through forums but only to share resources and ideas which we can use to help our students to learn more from us and have fun doing it in our lessons. If you don't believe me, you're very welcome to observe one of our classes and watch us prepare for our lessons, so that you can see this for yourself!

Whatever you decide, I wish you joy in your retirement!

Answer 7

What a dork! To assume that we know all the answers is stupid. That's why we come together to discuss better ways to approach our jobs. I personally don't vent with "non-teachers," but I DO appreciate the input I get from my colleagues. This includes teachers from other areas of the globe, and Answers can be a great resource for this when used properly. I can't believe you wasted 5 points to gripe (Why are you even in this section of the forum if you can't stand it?), and I can't believe I wasted 2 minutes responding.

Answer 8

I am not a teacher but I am absolutely disguested with your idea about teachers. It is because of people like you that teachers get a lot of hassle (whether you are a parent or a pupil/student). You lot do nothing but expect the impossible. How the hell can teachers teach if they are not even given basic rights to discipline ridiculous little thugs that their own parents have never disciplined before???!!! If that's how you think of teachers then you need a reality check, I would advise you to spend a day in class as a teacher but obviously you are not intelligent enough to hold a lesson on any subject other than stupidity.

Answer 9

All I did was spend 5 minutes of my own time asking about something.

I do my job properly; my students always hit their targets for exams and are happy and safe in my class. Why should spending 5 minutes of my own time expressing something detract from that.

I could very well say that because you aren't checking your engineering RIGHT NOW there are going to be accidents! Of course, that is nonsense. Why are you so hostile to teachers - did you have a bad school experience? If you are disturbed by school workers, don't come to this bit of Answers!

Answer 10

Before knocking it try a month in front of 30 or so disgruntled teenagers who have no wish to learn and who will refuse to do anything you tell them.You are not allowed to punish them ,even shout at them in case they get upset.
If you manage a month and still have the same opinion,fair enough..but i doubt it.The 50s was the time to be a teacher....YOU were in charge and the kids knew it.