Why do rightwingers keep repeating the lie that most Democrats voted for Bush's lie-based quagmire?

Question

Are rightwingers ignorant or dishonest? Or both?

126 Democrats in the House and 21 Democrats in the Senate voted against the lie-based Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

Only SIX REPUBLICANS in the House and ONE Republican in the Senate voted against the LIE-BASED QUAGMIRE.

So, the notion that Democrats SHARE RESPONSIBILITY because a MINORITY OF DEMOCRATS BELIEVED THE LIES ABOUT WMD, is patently RIDICULOUS.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237#top


There were 255 Democrats in Congress.
102 voted for the Iraq resolution
153 voted against the resolution

SO THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS VOTED AGAINST THE BUSH'S LIE-BASED QUAGMIRE.

Answer 1

Well, first off they are always lying so we know if we look at the facts the majority of the democrats didn't vote for it. Also you can't really blame the democrats that voted for it, if you are lied to by your president and his cabinet of advisers aren't you supposed to believe them? But now we know the truth! last thing I really agree with almost every question and comment you have ever asked

Answer 2

Does it really matter who voted for or against the war? The fact is a majority in both houses voted for it. What I want to know is why are Democrats still so locked up in this and the justification issue. Neither are relevant at this time. The fact is that the Use of Force was passed and justified or not we did invade Iraq. The question now should be what is best course for a speedy resolution to the matter and Democrats still only seem to have one proposal which amounts to retreat and surrender. Frankly I am getting very tired of the war simply because I do not believe the Iraqis are doing their part in the effort and we cannot occupy this country in an open ended manner, but we still have obligations too meet based on the actions we took as a people. Whether you like it or not, this is an American problem, not a Democrat or Republican one. I also find it extremely amusing how little faith Democrats have in their elected leaders to believe that they could be so easily led. Everyone saw the same intelligence. The intelligence didn't change between the Clinton and Bush presidencies, argue this fact all you like, but the statements of many Democrats made before the election of George Bush support this fact Hold whatever opinions you like, but given the full range of circumstances regarding Democrats I would be very careful about using terms like ignorant or dishonest because it goes both ways.

Answer 3

At the time 21 was almost all the Democrats. The Republicans had a majority, not all Senators voted and then the Democrats that voted no when subtracted make for a pretty good number. Many of the Democrats that voted for the Iraq war were duped as many others were by the lies of the Administration. That was then this is now. People admit they were misled and make it clear they do not support the war and take appropriate action. Everyone makes mistakes especially when they base decidions on bogus information. Next time, perhaps the Democrats and Republicans, Independents and others will check before believing this or any other Administration when they want to go to war. Under the Constitution it is Congress that declares war but they have not declared war since WWII. Maybe we need a clearer definition or put limits on a President's War Powers.

Answer 4

In the House 81 democrats voted for the war and 28 in the senate for a total of......109 so yes they did vote for the war


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237#position

Answer 5

Number one.......He did not lie.....If he did, all the major candidates on your side of the aisle also lied.. In fact Hillary said that after an exhaustive personal investigation on Iraq she had determined that the only way the remove the dangerous Saddam from power was by military force and so she voted for the resolution. As they say, victory has a thousand fathers but failure is an orphan. Now she says that was a mistake. Well no s***. Give the lady a gold star. But she does not give the same deference to the President. Some folks stand up and put their political lives on the line to fight evil and the rest of the soggy biscuits hide in their offices and wait for something to go wrong so they can pontificate about the dangers of doing anything at all. Joe Liebermann comes to mind when you think of someone who had the guts and conviction to stand up for what is right, political fallout be damned. If we didn't have folks like him around, it boggles the mind what would happen to this self-centered milk toast society would be right now. The dust bins of history are filled with with people with big lofty pie in the sky ideals and no guts. Saddam killed 2 million people in his 25 years in power by conservative estimates. He paid people to blow up women and children in Israel. He was a direct threat to all his neighbors on a continuous basis. If we cannot be persuaded to remove this tyrant and dictator for the good of all mankind then the world as we know it is lost. God help us when the American people cannot find it in their hearts to oppose the tyranny that Islamic terrorism projects. Murder on a daily basis of innocent people to make a political point should be at the top of the list that our military can eventually stop. If we cannot oppose Islamic genocide, heaven help us all.

Answer 6

Because it is a mater of public record for anyone with enough sense to go to it and read it. You can spin all day long but a vote is history. 29 Senate Democrats voted Yea to Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114) -- 20 Nay. Similar situation in the House. More Democrats voted in favor than those who were opposed. Your liberal propananda is a pack of lies.......................A majority is a majority.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

Answer 7

1. Read the Congressional Record at your local
Library and it'll show that most of the democrats in both houses voted for the Iraq war!
2. N O!!
3. Iraq IS NOT a quagmire!!

Answer 8

We must be thinking of a different Bush. He said what he believed to be true at the time. Just because we haven't yet found any weapons of mass destruction within the borders of Iraq doesn't mean President Bush didn't believe that they were here.

Mr. Clinton believed that he didn't need to take out Osama Bin Laden when he was offered his head on a plate three times. Thta turned out to not be true, but that doesn't mean Mr. Clinton lied about it.

It's much more productive to learn from these occurences than to point fingers. Unfortunately most people on either side don't realize that.

Answer 9

I used to be a democrat, then I grew up and acquired a little wisdom.

Hey did it ever occur to anyone that maybe, JUST MAYBE, there are facts and issues in the white house that we will NEVER know about. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe some of the so-called evil things that politicians do ACTUALLY have a purpose that benefits us in some way and we will never be the wiser?
If you think you have a cluethat every reason and every action in front of that reason is public knowledge you MUST be a democrat because Democrats only see what's right in front of their faces and they are gullible. There are bad guys and good guys on both sides. Just remember that before you make an uninformed judgment.

Answer 10

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html



"Saddam Hussein certainly has chemical and biological weapons. There's no question about that."

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)
During an interview on "Meet The Press"
November 17, 2002
http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?...



"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators."

Madeleine Albright, President Clinton's Secretary of State
Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University
February 18, 1998
http://www.cnn.com/world/9802/18/town.me...


"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United States and to our allies.

If Saddam persists in thumbing his nose at the inspectors, then we're clearly going to have to do something about it."

Howard Dean, Democratic Presidential Candidate
During an interview on "Face The Nation"
September 29, 2002
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_092902.pdf
"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

Former President Clinton
During an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live"
July 22, 2003
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/clinton.iraq.sotu/


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